General smashed windscreen

[Bartpanda]

P.S, would you believe i can get a fiat 130 coupe screen easiar ?

how much may I ask? My friend has cracked windsheld in his 130 coupe, we can not find the glass enywhere. You are talking about new or used item?

 

[the stig/130]

how much may I ask? My friend has cracked windsheld in his 130 coupe, we can not find the glass enywhere. You are talking about new or used item?

pilkington glass in England, a front screen? yes, rear screen?,no
on ebay: Mr fiat, atlanta,georgia USA,

 

[the stig/130]

When you get the 130 screen fitted into the Panda, do post a pic.

I feel a slap coming your way, plus some portland cement shoes

 

[GLA55MAN]

Laminated glass is simple sheet glass, two sheets bonded together with a plastic membrane glueing them together. The glass is cut using normal glass cutting tools and generally does as it is told. Cutting and sealing the inner membrane is the really clever bit.

Toughened glass, is the stuff our side and rear windows are made of, which breaks into lots of little bits. Quite flexible and tough when you want to break it, but at the same time quite stressed. Catching an edge on a sharp object, or trying to stand the glass on a concrete floor can often have it burst. Scratch the surface with a diamond (e.g. engagement ring) and it will burst easily. For this reason, cutting it to different sizes is very difficult. I think it involves heating it to relieve some stress. It is normally moulded to the required size, rather than cut to size, but sometimes can be cut to size for van side windows, if flat.

 

[portland_bill]

If the explanation is still not clear, then ask specific questions.
If you believe it to be wrong, add a correction.

Just posting the confused icon is inflammatory.

 

[GLA55MAN]

Just posting the confused icon is inflammatory.

I say your response is, or your perception is.

Laminated glass: are you talking about cutting it per se, or specifically windscreens?

Toughened - please clarify what you mean by cutting; is it generally the cutting of toughened glass, or cutting vehicle windows to shape?

 

[the stig/130]

new screen fitted today at 2nd attempt, break in the weather, £75.00 Excess lighter,speaking to my broker again on monday, time delay not good! 2,1/2 days off road!

 

[GLA55MAN]

If the explanation is still not clear, then ask specific questions.
If you believe it to be wrong, add a correction.

Just posting the confused icon is inflammatory.

I did that, and you clicked on the dislike button to my response? Really? How puerile.

I say your response is, or your perception is.

Laminated glass: are you talking about cutting it per se, or specifically windscreens?

Toughened - please clarify what you mean by cutting; is it generally the cutting of toughened glass, or cutting vehicle windows to shape?

 

[portland_bill]

I did that, and you clicked on the dislike button to my response? Really? How puerile.

You are now getting very irritating. You have an id that suggests that you may be in the glass trade, yet you offer no assistance to the original poster and just post an icon meaning nothing.

I say your response is, or your perception is.

Laminated glass: are you talking about cutting it per se, or specifically windscreens?

This thread is about windscreens. There's a clue in the title. As I said before, if anything I have posted is incorrect, and you know better, then state what you believe to be the truth.

Toughened - please clarify what you mean by cutting; is it generally the cutting of toughened glass, or cutting vehicle windows to shape?

With the title of "Toughened" I am talking of cutting toughened glass, for vehicle windows, as that is what this thread and this forum is about. "..cutting vehicle windows to shape?" could be toughened or laminated, so again your question is not specific. So difficult to answer. Vehicle windows are often curved, and if made of toughened glass are stressed and if touched by a sharp object in the wrong place can shatter. Try standing a toughened windscreen on its edge on a concrete floor and watch it burst. Seen it, done it. I am not talking about any toughened glass for any other application, such as house windows, as they might be difficult to fit into a car!

Do you have anything of value to add?

My apologies to Stig130 for the way his post is going, glad the car is back on the road.

 

[GLA55MAN]

I say your response is, or your perception is.

Laminated glass: are you talking about cutting it per se, or specifically windscreens?

Toughened - please clarify what you mean by cutting; is it generally the cutting of toughened glass, or cutting vehicle windows to shape?

You are now getting very irritating. You have an id that suggests that you may be in the glass trade, yet you offer no assistance to the original poster and just post an icon meaning nothing.

How do you get irritated by something which does not exist? If anything, it was your ambiguous post which would confuse and mislead most people. Hence the 'confused' post. You appeared to have got spikey from this moment on.

This thread is about windscreens. There's a clue in the title.

Quoting for posterity, Captain Obvious.

With the title of "Toughened" I am talking of cutting toughened glass, for vehicle windows, as that is what this thread and this forum is about. "..cutting vehicle windows to shape?"

See above.

could be toughened or laminated, so again your question is not specific. So difficult to answer. Vehicle windows are often curved, and if made of toughened glass are stressed and if touched by a sharp object in the wrong place can shatter. Try standing a toughened windscreen on its edge on a concrete floor and watch it burst. Seen it, done it. I am not talking about any toughened glass for any other application, such as house windows, as they might be difficult to fit into a car!

I suggest you say nothing as it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. Even if you plead ignorance, and that you were misled yourself, it's wiser to keep your head down.

Vehicle windows are pre-cut. The laminated examples then have curves introduced to them and hardware added after the cutting. Toughened units are also shaped to the specific requirements before they are 'tempered'.

A toughened glass will shatter. I'm not sure what you were doing allowing the corner of ANY piece of glass come into contact with a hard surface such as concrete, but you obviously learned from that silly mistake.

For you to use plate glass, or as you suggested, to try and "fit" a 'house window' into a car confirms that it is you adding an inflammatory tone to this conversation.

Do you have anything of value to add?

Of course, but disagreeing with your comments was necessary to correct the balance before proceeding.

Wind it in. There's no need.

 

[firstcar-Y10]

Vehicle windows are pre-cut. The laminated examples then have curves introduced to them and hardware added after the cutting. Toughened units are also shaped to the specific requirements before they are 'tempered'.

A toughened glass will shatter.

Might I suggest that should have been your first post rather than spending a vast amount of someone elses thread baiting, bickering and point scoring. Rather helpfully you have just tried to poke at someone elses posts rather than answer the original question i.e. since a Panda windscreen has no curves or hardware to add, can a supplier just cut one to order from a flat sheet from stock? If you have some insider knowledge would you care to share it?

 

[onemanmade]

How do you get irritated by something which does not exist? If anything, it was your ambiguous post which would confuse and mislead most people. Hence the 'confused' post. You appeared to have got spikey from this moment on.





Quoting for posterity, Captain Obvious.




See above.



I suggest you say nothing as it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. Even if you plead ignorance, and that you were misled yourself, it's wiser to keep your head down.

Vehicle windows are pre-cut. The laminated examples then have curves introduced to them and hardware added after the cutting. Toughened units are also shaped to the specific requirements before they are 'tempered'.

A toughened glass will shatter. I'm not sure what you were doing allowing the corner of ANY piece of glass come into contact with a hard surface such as concrete, but you obviously learned from that silly mistake.

For you to use plate glass, or as you suggested, to try and "fit" a 'house window' into a car confirms that it is you adding an inflammatory tone to this conversation.



Of course, but disagreeing with your comments was necessary to correct the balance before proceeding.

Wind it in. There's no need.

Get a grip man and wind it in yourself, you can't come onto a thread out of the blue with a name like Gla55man and then post confused icons to members of our club, if you want to discuss something do so politely and with words, its a forum not pictionary. If you are some kind of expert on glass you could be of help to some of us who don't know as much about the subject, instead you have come on this thread trying to make out some of our well liked and respected members out to be stupid, that kind of inflammatory behaviour wouldn't be received kindly down the local pub or anywhere else and isn't well received here.

In short let's draw a line under this and start again, keyboard warriors suck on any forum, but on a forum with kind members and good information such as this one it's beyond the ruddy pale.

 

[GLA55MAN]

Get a grip man and wind it in yourself, you can't come onto a thread out of the blue with a name like Gla55man and then post confused icons to members of our club, if you want to discuss something do so politely and with words, its a forum not pictionary. If you are some kind of expert on glass you could be of help to some of us who don't know as much about the subject, instead you have come on this thread trying to make out some of our well liked and respected members out to be stupid, that kind of inflammatory behaviour wouldn't be received kindly down the local pub or anywhere else and isn't well received here.

In short let's draw a line under this and start again, keyboard warriors suck on any forum, but on a forum with kind members and good information such as this one it's beyond the ruddy pale.

Members of your club? I understood this to be a FIAT forum.

The smilies/emoticons are there for a reason. It is sometimes far easier to post one which does the same job as one or several words. In fact, why didn't your friend just respond politely? From the off, he was sarcastic and suggested that posting a confused smiley is "inflammatory". Hardly the open circle of friends attitude, is it?

'Point scoring'; 'keyboard warriors', 'wouldn't be received well in a pub'... again, this is clearly your (incorrect) perception. Perhaps this is the issue here: pack mentality.

Your friend was prickly from the outset and I returned his comments. This has nothing to do with anyone else gratuitously wading in.

 

[onemanmade]

Members of your club? I understood this to be a FIAT forum.

The smilies/emoticons are there for a reason. It is sometimes far easier to post one which does the same job as one or several words. In fact, why didn't your friend just respond politely? From the off, he was sarcastic and suggested that posting a confused smiley is "inflammatory". Hardly the open circle of friends attitude, is it?

'Point scoring'; 'keyboard warriors', 'wouldn't be received well in a pub'... again, this is clearly your (incorrect) perception. Perhaps this is the issue here: pack mentality.

Your friend was prickly from the outset and I returned his comments. This has nothing to do with anyone else gratuitously wading in.

Given the insulting nature of your first post I think he did respond politely.

Anyone who comes on here and is polite and respectful is received with an open circle of friends attitude. Let's talk about your attitude for a second, what makes you think its ok to post the confused smiley out of the blue? You didn't make it clear what you are confused about or offer any help or suggestions.

 

[firstcar-Y10]

Members of your club? I understood this to be a FIAT forum.

The smilies/emoticons are there for a reason. It is sometimes far easier to post one which does the same job as one or several words. In fact, why didn't your friend just respond politely? From the off, he was sarcastic and suggested that posting a confused smiley is "inflammatory". Hardly the open circle of friends attitude, is it?

'Point scoring'; 'keyboard warriors', 'wouldn't be received well in a pub'... again, this is clearly your (incorrect) perception. Perhaps this is the issue here: pack mentality.

Your friend was prickly from the outset and I returned his comments. This has nothing to do with anyone else gratuitously wading in.

Not really the issue! He started off by trying to answer the question to the best of his knowledge. Your apparently more detailed knowledge has thus far only been used to point out at length just how wrong and laughable his answer was, and you haven't yet added anything useful. So if you want to prove how much nicer and more helpful you are....

since a Panda windscreen has no curves or hardware to add, can a supplier just cut one to order from a flat sheet from stock? If you have some insider knowledge would you care to share it?

 

[GLA55MAN]

Given the insulting nature of your first post I think he did respond politely.

Anyone who comes on here and is polite and respectful is received with an open circle of friends attitude. Let's talk about your attitude for a second, what makes you think its ok to post the confused smiley out of the blue? You didn't make it clear what you are confused about or offer any help or suggestions.

Insulting nature? Of what, posting a smiley? Really?!

 

[onemanmade]

Insulting nature? Of what, posting a smiley? Really?!

Think about it! If you were talking about something you are trying to sort in the pub and perhaps (as yet unproven) made a slight error in your estimations and someone burst in the pub walked up to your face and grimaced in a confused manner you would be insulted wouldn't you? That's what you just did on the internet.

 

[GLA55MAN]

you haven't yet added anything useful

You don't think the correction of your man's misinformation was helpful?

 

[GLA55MAN]

Think about it! If you were talking about something you are trying to sort in the pub and perhaps (as yet unproven) made a slight error in your estimations and someone burst in the pub walked up to your face and grimaced in a confused manner you would be insulted wouldn't you? That's what you just did on the internet.

But I did not 'just burst in' and this is not a pub. I go to plenty of pubs and have been around the internets for a long time; I know how both work. The nature of a forum is such that many people will watch from afar. Not everyone will contribute to a conversation (just like in the pub scenario).

The thread seemed to be bouncing along at its own pace until the incorrect information about how automotive glass is manufactured.

Going back to your pub scene, if I did walk in (or in your world, BURST in) and overheard a conversation which included something incorrect, I wouldn't think twice about commenting on it, or even altering my facial expression. Then again, the kind of pubs I go to, this wouldn't be a problem whatsoever.

With well over 100,00 interactive internet contributions, I have never known anyone to take a smiley response so badly.

 

[onemanmade]

But I did not 'just burst in' and this is not a pub. I go to plenty of pubs and have been around the internets for a long time; I know how both work. The nature of a forum is such that many people will watch from afar. Not everyone will contribute to a conversation (just like in the pub scenario).

The thread seemed to be bouncing along at its own pace until the incorrect information about how automotive glass is manufactured.

Going back to your pub scene, if I did walk in (or in your world, BURST in) and overheard a conversation which included something incorrect, I wouldn't think twice about commenting on it, or even altering my facial expression. Then again, the kind of pubs I go to, this wouldn't be a problem whatsoever.

With well over 100,00 interactive internet contributions, I have never known anyone to take a smiley response so badly.

Fair do's you handled the situation brilliantly and everyone else is wrong except you, cool.