Panda 2012+ Servicing my 2014 panda

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Panda 2012+ Servicing my 2014 panda

Darrenandrew

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Hello. I have recently become a fiat panda owner for the first time. It is a 2014 1.2. it's due a service and mot. I am thinking of using kwikfit. Has anyone else used them. My main concern is that they use the correct oil and filters and not some cheapy oil to save money. It's only done 29000 miles and I am hoping to keep it some time. Also the service history has no sign of a cambelt being done. As it's only done 29k should I have it done. And roughly how much will it cost.. I am a mature driver 60plus. Any advice would be gratefully received
 
Hello. I have recently become a fiat panda owner for the first time. It is a 2014 1.2. it's due a service and mot. I am thinking of using kwikfit. Has anyone else used them. My main concern is that they use the correct oil and filters and not some cheapy oil to save money. It's only done 29000 miles and I am hoping to keep it some time. Also the service history has no sign of a cambelt being done. As it's only done 29k should I have it done. And roughly how much will it cost.. I am a mature driver 60plus. Any advice would be gratefully received
Congratulations on your choice of Panda. I'm 78 and have been running Pandas as second cars in the family for over 40 years and the 1.2 is, in my opinion, the best for reliability, economy and cheapest to service and repair. We have a 2010 1.2 sitting outside the front door right now and, unless I'm going out of the city, I will jump into the Panda every time!

The workshop you mention has a pretty mixed reputation for mechanical work although you can get some good bargains on tyres if you're careful. Also, the cam belt, although not a particularly difficult one to do, has one or two aspects about doing it which can trap the inexperienced so, even if you go elsewhere for the service work, you'd be best to seek out a small Fiat/Alfa specialist workshop to do the belt change where the job will be done "right" but more cheaply than a main dealer. The Fiat recommended interval on the cam belt is 5 years or 70.000 miles - whichever comes first. The belts are not often reported on the forum as having broken but all belts degrade with age and short journeys - like to the shops and back, accelerate wear. I say that because with that mileage on it and 10 years old, it's likely it's done short trips a lot? So yours, if it's still the original, really needs done now. Definitely do a water pump at the same time as they are known to sometimes have bearing problems and don't add much to the labour bill to do at the same time as the belt. I do my own belts so have no recent knowledge of cost but I'd take a guess at around £400 for the whole job including the water pump. By the way, sometimes an ECU reset is needed after changing the belt and a general service workshop is very unlikely to have the dedicated electronic interface needed to do this - a Fiat specialist will definitely have it.

Hope that was helpful? Please do ask away if you think I can help with anything else.
 
Kwikfit is the last place I'd take any vehicle .......
I agree. My last company car was under service contract with them. Had I not retired I would have done it myself.
 
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Congratulations on your choice of Panda. I'm 78 and have been running Pandas as second cars in the family for over 40 years and the 1.2 is, in my opinion, the best for reliability, economy and cheapest to service and repair. We have a 2010 1.2 sitting outside the front door right now and, unless I'm going out of the city, I will jump into the Panda every time!

The workshop you mention has a pretty mixed reputation for mechanical work although you can get some good bargains on tyres if you're careful. Also, the cam belt, although not a particularly difficult one to do, has one or two aspects about doing it which can trap the inexperienced so, even if you go elsewhere for the service work, you'd be best to seek out a small Fiat/Alfa specialist workshop to do the belt change where the job will be done "right" but more cheaply than a main dealer. The Fiat recommended interval on the cam belt is 5 years or 70.000 miles - whichever comes first. The belts are not often reported on the forum as having broken but all belts degrade with age and short journeys - like to the shops and back, accelerate wear. I say that because with that mileage on it and 10 years old, it's likely it's done short trips a lot? So yours, if it's still the original, really needs done now. Definitely do a water pump at the same time as they are known to sometimes have bearing problems and don't add much to the labour bill to do at the same time as the belt. I do my own belts so have no recent knowledge of cost but I'd take a guess at around £400 for the whole job including the water pump. By the way, sometimes an ECU reset is needed after changing the belt and a general service workshop is very unlikely to have the dedicated electronic interface needed to do this - a Fiat specialist will definitely have it.

Hope that was helpful? Please do ask away if you think I can help with anything else.
Cheers. Will try to find a good independent fiat servicer if I can🙂
 
service history has no sign of a cambelt being done. As it's only done 29k should I have it done.
Yes, ASAP.

Timing belt due every five years, so yours should be on its third by now.

With such low mileage it is possible it's never been done.

Either way if there's no evidence to show it's been changed in last five years, it would be safe to assume it is overdue and needs changing.

Sometimes they put a sticker on the belt cover or driver's door frame if it's not noted in the handbook.
 
Yes, ASAP.

Timing belt due every five years, so yours should be on its third by now.

With such low mileage it is possible it's never been done.

Either way if there's no evidence to show it's been changed in last five years, it would be safe to assume it is overdue and needs changing.

Sometimes they put a sticker on the belt cover or driver's door frame if it's not noted in the handbook.
Ok. Cheers. I have also read that these engines can be interference. Or non interference. Which if it's the non. And the belt snaps it won't damage the engine. What I have read seems a bit complicated to me. It's all about engine numbers and types I believe the fire engine is mentioned. But not 100% shure
 
Ok. Cheers. I have also read that these engines can be interference. Or non interference. Which if it's the non. And the belt snaps it won't damage the engine. What I have read seems a bit complicated to me. It's all about engine numbers and types I believe the fire engine is mentioned. But not 100% shure
2014 will be interference. They changed around 2011. One quite easy way to check is to look for the VVT solenoid. Open the bonnet. Stand in front of the car. Look down on the top of the engine. To the left of the air filter case and to the right of the camshaft top pulley cover there will be a smallish cylindrical thingy fixed to the cam cover - axis of the cylinder is fore and aft - with an electrical wire going into the back of it. A 2014 1.2 Panda is going to be a 69hp VVT engine for sure and thus will be interference. It was only the older 60hp and all 1.1 engines as far as I know? that were non interference - our 2010 1.2 was one of the last of the non interference 1.2 engines. If you've no credible history, don't take the chance, just get the belt - and water pump - changed.
 
2014 will be interference. They changed around 2011. One quite easy way to check is to look for the VVT solenoid. Open the bonnet. Stand in front of the car. Look down on the top of the engine. To the left of the air filter case and to the right of the camshaft top pulley cover there will be a smallish cylindrical thingy fixed to the cam cover - axis of the cylinder is fore and aft - with an electrical wire going into the back of it. A 2014 1.2 Panda is going to be a 69hp VVT engine for sure and thus will be interference. It was only the older 60hp and all 1.1 engines as far as I know? that were non interference - our 2010 1.2 was one of the last of the non interference 1.2 engines. If you've no credible history, don't take the chance, just get the belt - and water pump - changed.
Thanks for the info. Will try to find a good service centre and get it sorted. Cheers
 
Hello. As a few of you kind members have probably noticed. I am rubbish on the net. I have mostly had lease cars. But I now find myself in the private owners club🙂. If there is anybody on the forum in or around Nottingham who has used a good independent garage and can recommend one to me. Hopefully fiat specialised. . I am looking to have a service. Mot. And cambelt done all at the same time. Within a £400 budget in a couple of months. I would be very grateful. Thank you for your time.
 
Hello. As a few of you kind members have probably noticed. I am rubbish on the net. I have mostly had lease cars. But I now find myself in the private owners club🙂. If there is anybody on the forum in or around Nottingham who has used a good independent garage and can recommend one to me. Hopefully fiat specialised. . I am looking to have a service. Mot. And cambelt done all at the same time. Within a £400 budget in a couple of months. I would be very grateful. Thank you for your time.
Service MOT and cam belt all within your £400 budget? Do let us know where you get that done and we'll all line up behind you!
 
I wouldn't go near KwikFit personally, but then I do as much of my own servicing as I can.

My sister used to use them for oil changes, the one near her used to offer them cheaper than DIY.

I guess a loss leader.

They would give her a long list of other jobs that needed doing on her car.

As long as you're happy to ignore them and drive away, and don't get bullied into giving them extra work, oil & filter change for £30-ish might be worth considering. Not for an MOT though.

And I'd still rather support an independent garage.
 
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