General Selenia 20k vs Gold

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General Selenia 20k vs Gold

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Guys what can i choose , Selenia 20K or Selenia GOLD ,both are 10w40. Selenia 20k is a bit high in price(not a problem). What can i choose? my car have 213343km,is from 2004,1108cm3,Panda 169(last oil was change on 201000km,i dont remember if it was 20K or GOLD)

P.S: If you have an much better option ,like Mobil1,Castrol ,etc ...tell me
 
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In my opinion.

Any correct spec branded 10w40 will be fine. I can not say brand x is better than brand y as I don't have any testing equipment. I have used all the brands you list plus valvolene and others and tbh in a double blind test I would not be able to guess which is which. They are all good.

I have also used lesser brands and tbh I can't tell the difference either, the trick I think is to change at a good schedule appropriate to to your use, rather than leave it in for 20000kms as some people do.
 
It is also an interesting question for me. I have a 120k km "old" 2003 Panda. I put Valvoline Maxlife 10W40 into it and now I can hear a level of tapping noise. A mechanic advised to put the Selénia into it. The manual says 10W40. But which one? 20k or Gold? They are in the same price in Hungary, so the money is not the part of the discussion.

Thank you in advance!
 
Senenia gold 10w40
SAE 10W-40, ACEA A3/B3/B4, API SN/CF, MB-Approval 229.1, VW 501.01-505.00, VW 502.00

selenia 20k 10w40
SAE 10W-40, ACEA A3, API SL/CF, FIAT 9.55535-G2 CONTRACTUAL TECHNICAL REFERENCE N.F405.N04, VW 500.00 - 505.00, MB-Approval 229.1

Valvolene maxlife 10w40
API: SM, SN, CF
ACEA A3/B4-12

I got that from the respective websites. Im not seeing how either Selenia is going to make any difference to your car, they all look ok and very similar. I would check the oil level in your car. As many fire engines consume a bit.
 
Thank you for the prompt reply!

Level is at the mid of the dipstick. I'll give it a try for the Selénia 8€/l is not much to have some hope with the Dwarf Beast.

So 20k is only for petrol/gasoline cars not diesel ones? Seems like I shall chose that one.
 
The panda only holds +-3 litres so there's not a lot in there, if i were you keep it topped up.

Also 20k or gold depends on the specification that your car needs, the thing with Diesels now is they are all turbo running really high compression and need low saps for the all devices that remove pollution. There's nothing stopping you using 'diesel' or 'petrol' branded oils that meet spec, normally the spec on diesel oils is very high for the above reasons. You dont however need the highest spec oil that you can find you just need whats right for your car. It would seem from my brief look that gold or if you stay with valvolene synpower 10w40 are the right oils. However i would put all of these oils in my car and not think twice about it!

Good Luck
 
the 'C' grade oils are low ash I believe probably to help the life of your cat or particulate filter in a diesel. Im guessing you have already done 120,000km without this though from your previous posts.
 
Sooooooooooo why they make 2 type of Selenia ,at same price with same specs .... ? marketing or wtf?
P.S: On Selenia 20K ,they say it will reduce the fuel consumption..... can be true !??
 
When i was to on store shop ,vendor told me i need Gold ...because he dosent remember if 20K is 10w40 ,he remember is 5w40 . The **** ? i see with my eyes ,its 10W40 ...

P.S: it wasnt Fiat vendor ,it was an auto shop .
 
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When i was to on store shop ,vendor told me i need Gold ...because he dosent remember if 20K is 10w40 ,he remember is 5w40 . The **** ? i see with my eyes ,its 10W40 ...

P.S: it wasnt Fiat vendor ,it was an auto shop .

Even if it were 5w40 (which its not) it wouldn't make any difference. 40 is the weight the oil is at running temperature, in summer you could probably even have straight 40 (if you could get it) like old times. The 5w 10w is the winter rating, the viscosity it manages at a low temp and even 5w-40 and 10w-40 are virtually the same down to 0c.

Again in my humble opinion. Any decent synthetic based 10w40 changed to a good schedule will be good. There's nothing magic in selenia, when fiat sell the diesel engines to GM do vauxhall/ opel owners get recommended selenia? no, they get recommended gm oil. Fords that use the 1.6 peogeot diesel engine have ford oil yet if you service a citroen with the same engine then, youre told you Must use some total oil they recommend. I think there's a a theme here. Manufacturers have deals with oil companies that they recommend and use, it doesn't however normally anything that special, just the right oil in the brand they are pushing. The correct spec for your oil is in the handbook, whatever you choose as long as you keep to that may as well be down to to what's the nicest bottle or what brand you feel most assured with.
 
I just realised on the Selenia 20K say : "for all type of gasoline engine" . And at Selenia Gold say : " for all type of eninge ,gasoline and diesel" ....welll i dont have any idea ,but i think 20K is more good cuz is for one type of engine ,you cant make something good for everything ...
P.S: really,i dont know what mean but Selenia 20K have more specs : ACEA A3, API /SL/CF, FIAT / 9.55535-G2 /CONTRACTUAL TECHNICAL REFERENCE / N.F405.N04,VW500.00-505.00,MB 229.1

Selenia GOLD spec:
ACEA A3/B3,API SL/CF,VW 500.00-505.00


I dont know what mean all this specs codes ,i dont know what to think ... more and good or less and better ?
 
Even if it were 5w40 (which its not) it wouldn't make any difference. 40 is the weight the oil is at running temperature, in summer you could probably even have straight 40 (if you could get it) like old times. The 5w 10w is the winter rating, the viscosity it manages at a low temp and even 5w-40 and 10w-40 are virtually the same down to 0c.

Again in my humble opinion. Any decent synthetic based 10w40 changed to a good schedule will be good. There's nothing magic in selenia, when fiat sell the diesel engines to GM do vauxhall/ opel owners get recommended selenia? no, they get recommended gm oil. Fords that use the 1.6 peogeot diesel engine have ford oil yet if you service a citroen with the same engine then, youre told you Must use some total oil they recommend. I think there's a a theme here. Manufacturers have deals with oil companies that they recommend and use, it doesn't however normally anything that special, just the right oil in the brand they are pushing. The correct spec for your oil is in the handbook, whatever you choose as long as you keep to that may as well be down to to what's the nicest bottle or what brand you feel most assured with.

Yes ,you are right ...but i think they develope something that fit with their engine. I mean the compound and the test it was with Selenia ...maybe i am wrong and naive... I just want the better for my car.
 
Duuuude ,can i have problem with catalyser from an engine oil? Because after last service change oil ...something happen to my engine ,the check engine blink when i have low rpm and press fast the acc. pedal (and all car vibrate and lose power) in any gear step...but this happen just when i have low rpm and im trying to accelerate fast. Hmmm ,can be from oil ?
 
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God sake ....a have a lot of info for my brain ... hard to choose ,at first view .....Selenia 20k is better ,but if you look closer ,Selenia GOLD have what 20K dont have , A3/B3/B4 is the specification for a standard from 2004.
Well Selenia 20K have only A3 ,but have API SL/CF and is better then, GOLD SN /CF .... WHAT THE F**K I CAN CHOOSE ? 20K is a bit more expensve then GOLD ....
Selenia 20k is for gasoline engine ,GOLD is for both(HOW!>?)
What is the difference from SELENIA 20K and SELENIA ALFA ROMEO 20K ? i see only : UNI 20153-NOM CI vs UNI 20153-NOM C1 ,what mean this "CI" and "C1" ,i dont find anything....im sooooo confuse .
 
Guys PANDA 169 ,2004 ,euro4 ,Actual ,1.1 ,have 2,8l or 3,5l ? Everywhere say 3,5l but some ppl say there is only 2,8l. And i look on the last service invoice and say i pay for 3L ...what?
 
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