General Seicento wheels

[CasLad]

My 2002 Seicento needs a one new wheel (it is cracked). But the whole set are rusted and one other is leaking air because of the rusted rim. So, I am looking for at least one new wheel or a new set.
I have never bought a car wheel before, so could someone please give me some advice? I have looked on ebay and I have the following questions:
1. It seems that one can buy Seicento wheels from Italy, but they are only for a Mk1 (up to 2000). Now I didn't know that there was a Mk1 and an Mk2. So, would a Mk1 wheel fit a Mk2 Seicento (assuming that I have a Mk2 - being a 2002 model)?
2. I have seen an alloy Seicento wheel for sale, but it is 13" diameter. There is also a full set of alloys, similarly 13" diameter. My steel wheels are 14". Is 13" or 14" the standard for a Seicento 2002? Also, I assume I measured it right, from outer rim to outer rim, or how is the wheel diameter measured?
3. Would any other Fiat car wheel (Panda, etc.) fit the Seicento?
Thanks,
Andrew

 

[Jack261]

All seicento wheels are the same from beginning to end, same with cinquecento, also the vast majority of similar-era Fiat, Alfa Romeo, and lancia wheels will fit straight on. If you find something and are unsure, you can always ask in here

 

[rmjbn1]

I thought standard cento wheels were 13", but yes, you're correct, measure rim to rim for the diameter.

Wheel diameter will also be marked on the tyre eg 165/60 R14 - the R14 will tell you it's 14 inch rim.

If replacing one or two wheels I think they'd need to be an exact match for what you have. Opneo could probably supply, not sure if they still service UK.

Full used set is an option, you need to look out for PCD (pitch circle diameter) and offset.

PCD 4x98 has been used on lots of fiats for years, so there will be plenty of choice. Be aware other wheels with four mounting holes might not necessarily fit, holes might be in the wrong place, needs to be 4x98.

Offset on the Seicento was I think ET33. Deviating too much will affect steering geometry and braking, so try and keep as close as possible.

Current 500 & Panda are ET35 14" steel rims, previous 169 Panda 13" steel 14" alloys.

Maybe older Puntos too, but they're probably a bit thin on the ground now, steel rims probably rusty.

You could try searching 500 or Panda breaking on eBay and ask the vendor for a price or try Failsworth Fiat Spares.

 

[icheatatscrabble]

You could go for some imitation Speedline 13" alloys from ebay.... I have the legit ones on my Cinquecento and they look great.

Cerchi in lega 13 Fiat cinquecento Trofeo 4x98 felgen wheels llantas jantes per | eBay

PCD - LK 4x98. Cinquecento anche sporting. 4 cerchi Lega Leggera STAR. Siamo presenti anche nel campo di cerchi nuovi, sempre e solo cerchi particolari, e accessori cerchi (bulloneria, anelli di centraggio, viteria decorativa).

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[CasLad]

Thank you for all your comments.
I bought another Seicento - one that is like new, with 8000 miles on the clock. But I'd still like to get my old vehicle through its MOT and apart from the wheels the chassis, bulkhead and engine are good.
On the subject the the wheels, I have attached a photograph below, as I'm still confused. Can someone explain please?
Both Seicentos have the same size wheels. The tyres are also marked as R13. But, as shown in the photograph, when measuring rim too rim it is 14". What is the reason for this please? Are these wheels 14" or 13" diameter, and if 13" how can this be? Is the measurement perhaps not the rim of the wheel, but the diameter of the tyre where it sits inside the rim?

 

[rmjbn1]

Hi sorry for any confusion. Yes, it's where the bead of the tyre sits on the rim, not the outer lip

 

[CasLad]

Does anyone know if the wheels from a mini (not the BMW version) will fit a Seicento?

 

[porta]

Does anyone know if the wheels from a mini (not the BMW version) will fit a Seicento?

No, mini wheels will not fit…also look, as someone has pointed out, that the offset is the same, this is stamped on the wheel…quick way to look at for wheel size is the tyre, will be a 13”, later, hit n miss, and alloys were 14”.

 

[FiatMatt94]

Does anyone know if the wheels from a mini (not the BMW version) will fit a Seicento?

Seicento wheels are 4x98 PCD as are many other Fiat's since roughly the 70's where as Classic Mini's are 101.6 PCD so would not fit. Another thing you could do is get some standard Seicento steels banded as I'm putting on my Seicento although this isn't exactly cheap as there's not many who'll do it nowadays but I was lucky to find some already banded local to me for just £100

There is a very minimal amount of poke in the pictures but there are a couple of factors as to why, in the pics they currently have really chunky semi slick 185/60/13 tyres as the bloke I bought them from used them in a Kawasaki powered Seicento which he said was better for the motorbike gearing & since taking these photos I've rolled the rear arches which cost £25 for the tool & £20 for the heat gun so coupled with narrower 175/50/13 tyres or maybe even 165/55/13 the poke should come back in, below is a rim after a quick repaint to show how deep the dish is

so standard they are 5x13 these have been banded to 6x13 which as far as I'm aware is the widest you can go without doing bodywork etc apart from maybe rolling arches, I've also just picked up some old 131 CL centre caps with the raised centres to go with them which should finish them off.