Well I have just come back from a hand car wash! And when they went to clean the roof one big dude stood on the side bars and BANG!! The drivers side rear fixings bent and pulled out! So sat there with it dangling off! They all were saying that it shud have taken it cuz there ment to be stood on! I said not 22 stone! So they put it in the valet bay and re fixed it on! And seems solid and the wash was free! :bang: