Technical Panda wild 4x4 vs panda 4x4
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Technical Panda wild 4x4 vs panda 4x4
We recently bought a 2023 Panda Wild 4x 4 TA 9.0 it’s a great car, no idea how different it is from the earlier version but it’s really difficult to compare panda models as there’s so much variation ie winter pack, comfort pack, style pack, four seat, five seat, split rear seat, solid rear seat etc etc, we just bought a car that was available but it only has four seats and a solid rear seat back, this below is more or less ours, it’s a touch wild.
www.autoexpress.co.uk
There‘s another variation Style ie five seat three in the back with headrests and a split rear seat back but the wheels on the car are the same wheels that are on my car ie they’re steel not alloys.
Theres also a sliding rear seat version that gives you more space in the boot but less space for the rear passengers.
Fiat Panda Hatchback 0.9 TwinAir [85] Wild 4x4 [Touchscreen] 5dr | Auto Express
www.autoexpress.co.uk
There‘s another variation Style ie five seat three in the back with headrests and a split rear seat back but the wheels on the car are the same wheels that are on my car ie they’re steel not alloys.
Theres also a sliding rear seat version that gives you more space in the boot but less space for the rear passengers.
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The Panda Nut
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Panda wilds didnt have fog lights or alloy wheels when they came out. These may have been added back since. No two Pandas seem to be the same. The extra kit on the cross is significant but some can be added after purchase if desired. The original Panda 4x4 was withdrawn when the wild was introduced. It made the hugely more expensive cross version more easily justify its price difference.
I have just bought a Marc h 23 reg. Panda 4x4 Wild. It has split rear seats, summer tyres ( why not all season ? ) and no fog lights ( why stop fitting these ? )
and the recent infotainment system. I read that there were problems in getting parts for the production of the latest 4x4 's, so maybe this lead to changes in the spec ?
I wanted a Cross for the additional equipment like hill descent system, climate control rather than air con. and fogs, but found the offerings expensive.
Apart from the lack of some items difficult to retro-fit, I somehow prefer the less (dare I say it ) 'blingy' look of the Wild compared with the Cross.
I found I have 14 inch steel wheels with 175/65 Nokian winter tyres which I had used a few years ago on a 500 Twinair or a Panda Twinair - I cannot remenber which. Can I use these until I have worn the summer tyres on the 15 inch wheels and can fit all seasons ? Can I use the 14 inch wheels without
tyre pressure sensors in the wheels? - I don't know if the car uses such a system.
The Panda Nut
Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
Likely they will fit, but are not type approved so definitely ask your insurer first. There are no in-tyre sensors the system works on the abs sensors and detects change in speeds from a flatter tyre by the change in rotation. 14" wheels would affect this, and abs and esp but I dont know how. Unless conditions are extreme the car will cope much better than you anticipate. Personally I wouldnt change these wheels unless you feel its essential. Summer tyres definitely give an extra few mpg, maybe as much as 5! I'm going to publish a guide to fitting fog lights to a 169, and you may be able to obtain the pods for fogs on your wild. If so there is no reason you couldnt retro fit on yours. The only bit that would look non standard is the switch. Fogs do a good job on the Panda as are wired so you can use without the headlights which is useful in heavy snow and thick fog. I would recommend a good polish of those wheels I have found they are VERY poorly finished, my 2019 waze which needs them repainting in spite of ridiculous over maintenance by me, and only 20 months of use! (No snow so far and very little salt exposure) I hope you enjoy the new car. Performance in snow will astound you.
Just wondering if you received a full owners manual with your new car or a quick start manual?
We also bought a 4x4 Wild 23 reg (manufactured 22 BTW-December I think) this year and the car only came with the quick start manual, I keep thinking I should contact the dealer (who were terrible) or Fiat for a proper owners manual?
The car was bought 'second hand ', with 2500 miles on the clock, from a large scottish dealership.
I only got the Quick Guide manual, of which 34 pages are in english covering all Panda versions
and equipment. The manual states that a full manual is on line.
Having just traded in a VW Golf and a BMW, as my mileage is drastically reduced due to retirement,
I have experienced much lower quality of service from the two nearest FIAT dealerships owned by the vendors,
than what I got used to.
I want to claim on the warranty for body-work issues : Two wheel arch trims separating from bodywork
and black foil beside driver-side window poorly fitted, protruding beyond door edge and split.
I have to book the car in and sign to cover cost of diagnostics if the warranty doesn't cover the repair.
Eyeballing the issues should take a minute. I now feel I have to check out the car thoroughly.
I have found in the past when i had Fiat / Lancia, that dealerships let the marque down.
Is quality failing on the last of production of the 4x4 ?
I only got the Quick Guide manual, of which 34 pages are in english covering all Panda versions
and equipment. The manual states that a full manual is on line.
Having just traded in a VW Golf and a BMW, as my mileage is drastically reduced due to retirement,
I have experienced much lower quality of service from the two nearest FIAT dealerships owned by the vendors,
than what I got used to.
I want to claim on the warranty for body-work issues : Two wheel arch trims separating from bodywork
and black foil beside driver-side window poorly fitted, protruding beyond door edge and split.
I have to book the car in and sign to cover cost of diagnostics if the warranty doesn't cover the repair.
Eyeballing the issues should take a minute. I now feel I have to check out the car thoroughly.
I have found in the past when i had Fiat / Lancia, that dealerships let the marque down.
Is quality failing on the last of production of the 4x4 ?
Thanks.
I know i will enjoy the car having had the 4x4 in 1990 and recently a 500 and a Panda with the Twinair engine.
I will look out for any information regarding fitting fogs to the car.
I tried to buy a Panda 4x4 from Arnold Clarke in Edinburgh after ordering a hybrid from their paisley fiat dealership which I cancelled however the 4x4 was sold so we ended up buying the car from a dealer in England, Nottingham, we drove down to pick it up as they wanted £820 to deliver the car and pick up the trade in, apart from the cheap mats they supplied which nearly caused me to crash the car about ten miles from the dealership and the lack of a proper owners manual the car has been, so far, faultless.
We bought it with ten miles on the clock back in July and it’s done about 2200 miles since.
I intend to ‘service’ it myself (oil change) and take it for a full service around two years old probably to Arnold Clarke Paisley who I had decent dealings with when we started looking at Pandas back in June and subsequently ordered the hybrid variant from them paying a £100 deposit which the returned when we cancelled the car.
The Panda Nut
Nutty about Pandas Infected by Panda virus and OPD
I bought my first one from Arnold Clarke and got a fanrastic deal. Replaced it locally in 2019 and would do again if they were available. They sold my px for £1000 more than I paid new two years old and 18000 on the clock.
This sounds promising for future value, although had planned for my recent 4x4 to be with me a long time, although sometimes with cars
you change your mind if you see a good deal. I wish I had kept my 1990 Panda 4x4.
When I had my Panda Twinair Lounge 12 reg., I had this serviced from new by A.Clark Fiat Paisley. In answer to a question from me as to which oil they used, they said that 0W 30 oil came in barrels from an english company - cannot remember the company name. I approached FIAT about this and they
said that only OE oil Selenia ( now owned by Petronas ) should be used. I told the dealer, who had sold me Selenia 1ltr. for top up, and I hoped the advise was followed.
As I have bought a service plan with my car from A.Clark, I have just asked their FIAT Springburn dealer which oil they use, and they refer to an unnamed
oil arriving in barrels. Other cars I have had use recognised brands of oil, and this is listed on the receipts : BMW : Mobile 1, others Shell Helix.
I always buy a quality brand of oil ( on offer) for any diy. What oil do other FIAT dealerships use ? Any views on this ?
No idea what oil dealerships use but you’d expect them to use the correct oil which is the reason I’m doing my own oil changes ie the correct oil will be used by me, I use an independent garage for all of our cars and my van but I don’t really want to go to the guy and ask him if he’s going to use the correct oil as I’ve known him 20 odd years so don’t want to be disrespectful plus I don’t think he has Fiat diagnostic equipment cause I asked them if the could check out my van when it had the flashing odometer thing going on, their response was that they couldn’t sort that issue, the van is a Citroen Nemo which is basically a Fiat van.
I sorted the flashing odometer thing myself , well from help on here and a specialist B&M repairer down south.
BTW, the correct oil is critical with the TA engine, from what I’ve read on here you can’t just throw any old oil into the engine, I’ve bought a load of oil from shop for parts, enough for two oil changes, costs about £12 for a litre bottle.
The Panda Nut
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Fail to use the correct oil at your peril. My experience of their service and spares departments was not anything to recommend. my local garage always states the oil used and has so far only ever stated Sekenia oil. I would not trust them on this matter and I am convinced after a bit of research its important. It may be they use Mliiers and I regard htem well, I would accept castrol edge of the correct grade but nothing else. The oil does the valves and the tolerances are small. Logic amd experience suggest the correct grade of oil ought to be enough but the Selenia oil was what this engine was designed for. In view of the multi air unit I will use it for the time being. I dont like Petronas and would never use it an anything else after seeing what it looked like in our 1.2 Lounge after less than 2000 miles when it was removed due to poor oil pressure, and rattling on startup. Not even my old lawn mower! It appeared to be a mass of liquid rust the like of which I have never seen. Current Panda is a Waze 4x4 and is worth nearly 1.5 times what I paid nearly 5 years ago. If I could replace it I am just at the stage that I might do so but they are no longer available. Like you I want to keep it aso its a nurtured amd pampered example. (apart from today when it did nearly 2miles of driving up to its axles in flood water and mud) I agree Mobil 1 is excellent and will go a very long way before feeling like its in need of change, Shell Helix I also found worked and it was my oil of choice for my Bravo which was running better at 106K than when bought nearly new. I would also use Vauhall oil which was still good after 30,000 miles when used in the company car. The service indicator just did not demand attention. There was alsono feeling of improvement afteran oil change at this milage. Vauxhall being tied to Fiat at hte time meant I was happy with this oil too. I found the service plan I had from Desira did not deliver what I wanted when I wanted it so scrapped it. Its all a gamble. They now do what I require and stipulate so providing Im not being cheated the car should get everything needed. Stange how they dont like working to a customers requirements though. Both the 1.2s get routine service at home and are definitely non the worse for it. At least whne the monkey doing the work breaks something I know straight away. He also tends to notice when other things requie attention instead of ignoring themand advising it needs discs and pads when they were done for the service / MOT!
