I believe the 1.1 and 1.2 FIRE never used hydraulic tappets? They are solid with shims to adjust clearances. I'm very happy to be corrected though if I'm wrong. The 1.1 and 1.2 are well known for tapping noises briefly - very briefly - on cold start due to the oil supply taking a few seconds to get up to the top of the engine to lube the followers. Our 2010 1.2 60hp does it but it's literally just seconds and I've heard others doing likewise.
Worth a go, although I’d trust what Jock said over me, as he’s a trained mechanic and i’m what I’d describe as a tinkerer! Either way though doesn’t sound too serious
58 plate so 2008/9? with round filler cap so no spray bar it'll have the oilways in the cam cover I think? I've not come across one of them with a blockage myself. One thought does occur. The oils supply drillings between the cover and cam journal housings are sealed with rubber O rings which fit in grooves in the cam cover. If it's been assembled with no O rings the oil will leak at this join instead of going to the cam? Just wondering. Maybe not very likely?Worth a go, although I’d trust what Jock said over me, as he’s a trained mechanic and i’m what I’d describe as a tinkerer! Either way though doesn’t sound too serious
? It's strange that it's ticking for so long, usually they just do it for a few seconds. If our friend manages to upload a recording of the noise I'll be listening to it very carefully.
Yes, be a lot easier to diagnose if we can hear it58 plate so 2008/9? with round filler cap so no spray bar it'll have the oilways in the cam cover I think? I've not come across one of them with a blockage myself. One thought does occur. The oils supply drillings between the cover and cam journal housings are sealed with rubber O rings which fit in grooves in the cam cover. If it's been assembled with no O rings the oil will leak at this join instead of going to the cam? Just wondering. Maybe not very likely?
Don't put yourself down man. It might well be a sticky tappet, just not a hydraulic one
Ignore my comment on doing Beckies VVT. I see it wont have this. Probably better for it most of the time!!
You just beat me to the punch. You're right, no VVT on Becky. My boy's 2012 Punto 1.4 had it though. Unfortunately "kamikaze woman" managed to "T" bone him and write the car off so I can't experiment. It always seemed sluggish though compared to Becky so it would have been very interesting to have had a fiddle with it. It occurs to me that cleaning this out might be one of the first things to do when buying a used one with VVT. Would you believe, we'd just put a clutch and slave/master cylinder into the before she "attacked" him. Ah well, c'est la vie.
No not a lot. I forgot to fit the cap on my daughters car a few weeks ago. She set off on a weeks holiday and returned 800 miles later. When I went to check the oil, I realised my error!! Thankfully the car was still fill of oil and the amount lost over the engine was minute. I put my wifes cap on cleaned it up and said nought!! New cap for the wifes car from S4P was under £10 so I got away with it.
Aye, think I'd have got away with that too if it was my daughter. I don't think either she or her husband ever open their bonnets. She gets away with it because she does so few miles in their wee Skoda Citigo and hubby drives an electric Enyaq - so no point in opening his bonnet anyway!
I know at some point the cover is going to have to come off, just for piece of mind. I do know the previous owner let the service lapse, and the car was practically garaged for a couple of years?58 plate so 2008/9? with round filler cap so no spray bar it'll have the oilways in the cam cover I think? I've not come across one of them with a blockage myself. One thought does occur. The oils supply drillings between the cover and cam journal housings are sealed with rubber O rings which fit in grooves in the cam cover. If it's been assembled with no O rings the oil will leak at this join instead of going to the cam? Just wondering. Maybe not very likely?
Don't put yourself down man. It might well be a sticky tappet, just not a hydraulic one
That doesn't sound like the typical startup tappet noise I've heard on these engines. I'm reluctant to take a guess at what it might be without being able to listen properly to it "in the flesh" but, I'm sorry to say, I don't like the sound of it very much. Listening in the oil filler isn't very helpful, I think the mic is struggling with it. Because it's an easy thing to do I'd be tempted to take the cam cover off and closely inspect the cam lobes for scoring/damage and also the cam followers. It's always difficult to be sure based on a recorded sound like this. Doesn't sound like big ends but it definitely doesn't sound "right". Could it be piston slap? Probably not? My money's on something to do with cam and or followers. Do let us know when you find out please.
