OT- trackday car

[james]

My brother in law runs a ex steve soper rs500 at track days etc. the car has never been registered for the road so no tax or Mot ever used on the car!! thats been run at most tracks in the UK and some others. Can't see what purpose having them would serve? Touring cars, F1, GP2, GP3etc all use the same tracks, all these cars are un-taxed, never registered etc!!!

 

[james]

My brother in law runs a ex steve soper rs500 at track days etc. the car has never been registered for the road so no tax or Mot ever used on the car!! thats been run at most tracks in the UK and some others. Can't see what purpose having them would serve? Touring cars, F1, GP2, GP3etc all use the same tracks, all these cars are un-taxed, never registered etc!!!

 

[Tom]

Because race cars have to comply with the regulations of the class and all have to be scrutineered before going out on the track.

Plus thats motorsport, not a trackday. VERY different.

 

[james]

sorry tom but the track days we have attended must be differant. The Cars i mentioned WAS a race car 20 years ago but still attends track days now and has never been asked to produce any documents anywhere it has been since it raced. may i ask what you base this statment on?

 

[Tom]

"Touring cars, F1, GP2, GP3etc all use the same tracks, all these cars are un-taxed, never registered etc!!!"

I was responding to that comment. Thats motorsport, goverened by strict rules and per-race scrutineering, hence no need for them to be taxed or registered.

 

[donny lad]

you will need insurance for sure aswell as tax and test and 5 times out of 10 will need to be in a FIA approved car club as most trackdays arent for the public they are for clubs and the the public are left with the ****ty times or days when i applied for my fia licsense they said i wasnt apllicabe till i joined a car club.

 

[edvaldez]

how about;

nissan 200sx - rwd turbo cheap and easy to work on

fiat cinquecento - although not rwd or 4wd they are cheap super light easy to make very quick and available everywhere check out clubcento there are a few very quick and capable cento's on there.

bmw e30 - cheap reliable rwd

clio 16v - not rwd again but quick and nimble

golf gti

mazda rx7 - rwd lots of power cheap enough if you get an fc3 and although there are lots of scare stories they are reliable. I owned an n/a one and it was quick enough also sound like old school racers with straight throughs.

bravo !!

older shaped celica gt4 - 4wd turbo cheap

ford saphire cosworth - 4wd turbo quick

the list goes on.

 

[donnylad]

to be honest youre best bet is something fwd for the track if its ure first as they are as quick but easyer to controll sumat like a pug 205 or a mk3 fezzy will do just strip everything out and wack on coil overs and that will be a decent track car, t first one i built was a mk3 fiesta si that we stuck a 2.0l 16v mondeo engine in, it cost less than a grand to build once we sold most of the mondeo stuff and was ****ing rapid quicker than a std hgt by miles and didnt cost my mate to much to insure aswell youve gotta start somewhere and thats the bottom line cos if you buy some big powerfull car that you cant controll you will just get bored and give up. trust me on this, if you need help with a fezzy just pm me as there int much me or my mate ant done to a mk3 between us. plus i think big al is pretty much in the know with fezzy's

 

[Buzz]

Just to throw in a random £0.02

At Scotlands main racing circuit, Knockhill, you either have to turn up with a taxed and MOT'd car, or submit to scrutineering who will issue a track worthiness certificate at a nominal cost.

As i understood it, its one or the other, not both. So if you trailer a track car there, provided its safe it'll pass scrutineering, and your good for the season.

Buzz
The champion of the Bravo 1.4
& now ex owner of a Bravo 1.8

 

[Callum]

Thats good news. donington is my nearest track and they dont require MOT etc. so all is looking good.

Thanks for the idea donny, but to be honest if i where to do what you said then id sell my bravo and have it as a daily driver and track car. which isnt what i want. I want to go for RWD, ive decided im going to leave it til april (end of tax year) when i get a £500 rebate and buy a rwd sierra.

thanks for the input.

Cal

 

[donnylad]

lol you do know it wont be as fast mate dont ya, although a sierra is brill for learning drifting if ya have the diff welded

 

[Callum]

i assure you it will be faster than a fiesta. and i wont have terrible understeer all the time!

 

[james]

Good to hear it. as i said most tracks will not ask for anything, as long as the car isn't a shed.The sierra is a good choice, let me know how it goes. mine has been booked in for the 19th at oulton park so will have to have the engine done by then.

 

[Andy]

Donnylad, although i kind of agree with you, id rather try my hand at rwd on a track then fwd with chronic understeer that a big engine in a cghasis unsuited to it will provide, plus lifft off oversteer with a fwd when pushing on at a circuit will not be nice, big tank slapper!

personally i would go for either an alfa 75 (pref the v6, but the twin spark engies are pretty handy as is and theres a reasonable amount of tuning kit out there) or a mk1 mx5, can turbo or supercharge the, and if you get bored with that, small block v8 it mk1 5 can be grabbed sub 1k for a half decent base, plus its a pretty damn good chasis to start with

Andy_sx

 

[Andy]

oh, and if i could afford it, id have this 75 as my track toy ok, so building it would have been part of the fun, but think of the sheer lunacy

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/311254.htm

Andy_sx

 

[Ian]

Someone I work with has a Mk1 1.6 Mazda MX-5 and had a Turbocharger kit installed on it with 550cc injectors.

That thing is now rapid and scares you silly

~220BHP. I think they're 105BHP standard!