Technical Or...something a little less impossible?

[MarkThompson4]

I've got one more idea regarding an engine swap...

Found this here...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-F...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item232666e040

Pretty much a brand new engine. This I understand is a little more similar to my 1242cc engine?

As I'm lead to believe the 1368cc is a derivative of the 1242cc FIRE and the 1368cc Super-FIRE is what they went on to make into the T-Jet/ Abarth motors?

I may be rediculous in thinking this but I'm at least a little bit sure I'm onto something with this one...this engine will at least drop in with the Stilo 1.4 engine mounts, so...what if I'm able to run this off my 1.2 wiring loom and ECU and get it remapped to run the correct air/fuel with the turbo because - after the larger displacement and turbo - there's not much else that can be different right??

I assume this Abarth runs off a MAF sensor so I can do away with that with my ECU and probably fit a higher range MAP sensor unless the Abarths have MAP sensors as well?? I can't think of anything else that this engine would have on it that would need blanking out that my wiring loom/ ecu won't recognise?

That's basicly all I'm trying to do - make this engine compatible with my ecu and wiring loom - can't think of anything else that would need removing, although I don't have air conditioning so I'd remove the compressor and the drive belt and fit my 1242's belt in place

I can't think of anything else I'd need altered on the engine to make it run with my ecu/ wiring loom, if anyone else can I'd appreciate it Just an idea at the moment, but seems a lot more feasible than my more recent idea I posted

Over and out

Mark

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Might have an EGR value possibly. Tbh I'd be advising to swap entire running gear electrics (looms / ECUs etc) to make it doable.

It most certainly won't be plug and play with a simple remap on top.

 

[MarkThompson4]

But the electrics is where it gets tricky lol if I'm able to keep my original loom in place then I assume everything downstream from that and into the car wouldn't be affected either? It just may turn into a pain in the arse to get the Abarth loom to work with everything else that's present on my Stilo :/

I don't see how it can't work off my wiring loom really, I mean if I try and run it off my ecu initialy and it doesn't like the Abarth throttle body for instance then I can swap my 1242's entire intake manifold and fuel system over to the Abarth engine as well.

Being realistic, all I'd really need off this engine is the bare engine (sump, block and head) with the turbo/ manifold and oil lines attatched to it. The rest I can bump off my Stilo and bolt onto it. Stick my intake manifold and fuel system up to it (probably stick the Abarth injectors in though) with my original throttle body and I reckon I'd have a workable turbo setup that would work off my standard ecu...

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

So what about EGR and boost sensors Etc

 

[MarkThompson4]

There doesn't appear to be any boost sensors, it seems to have a map sensor and no matter how much I search it seems nothing comes up for a maf sensor. It would be handy if I could get a hold of a list of sensors that these Abarth engines use and compare to my engine wiring loom. A trip to the Abarth owners section required then

There was a thread in the MK2 Punto section where someone turbo'd there Punto with the VL36 Abarth turbo and used the same exhuast manifold and downpipe and didn't have to retrofit an EGR valve onto the exhuast or anything :s He also used his original wiring loom and ecu and got it remapped to 170bhp. I'm basicly doing the exact same thing except I'm bumping the block, head and internals as well as the turbo/ manifold/ downpipe. If it works on a MK2 Punto (which had a distributer) then I don't see why it can't work in mine

I'm choking to give this a shot

 

[richydraper]

Mk2 puntos dont have distributors...

 

[MarkThompson4]

What about in this picture? Looks like a distributer to me :s

 

[Davren]

What about in this picture? Looks like a distributer to me :s

View attachment 111385

It's not a distributor, it's a multi coil pack.

 

[MarkThompson4]

OK, I stand corrected

Still, it can be done to the Punto 1242 so can't see why not on my Stilo, therefor can't see why it can't then be transferred onto a bare Abarth 1368 and dropped into mine. But we'll see, thanks for the info anyway