Opinions on a Saxo VTS

[Liam]

Like some have mentioned before, both the Saxo and 106 (essentially being the same car) are just as rattly and tinny like your current Sei and have some build quality issues they also have this weird pedal setup you have to try it to see if it bothers you or not.

My biggest point is look out for car that have been de-chavved and traded in, you can spot stickers or remains of plus lowering springs etc and rear clusters looking new etc weed out these and get the unmolested examples.

Liam

 

[pinin__prestatyn]

Ah yes forgot to say - if you have larger than size ten feet, forget the 106/saxo. The pedal box is tiny and I nearly stacked my sister's 106 reversing it off the drive, as my foot would touch the brake and accelarator.

 

[FuzzyPanda]

This might be the case now. I bought a VTR in 1997 for £10k and sold it for £7k 3.5 years later.

Insurance prices have leaped for young people since then, hence youngsters wanting to get rid as soon as they're landed with quotes for £3k come renewal time. Sources like Glass's Guide state the market is getting more and more of these examples which means residuals are even lower because of the amount of choice. And Citroen's are very aggressively priced new, meaning people won't want to settle for a year-old car and go new instead.

 

[J333EVO]

Having had a MK1 106 Rallye, 1000 UK models & MK2 900ish, I totally agree with Classics mag (top ten future classics) and say that it is an absolute future proof investment, unless you modify it then its worth less, keep the very light Michelin steel wheels, for get alloys they spoil the car, the interior and the all important air box and it will only go back up in value, it is the best small hatch about, the chassis dynamics leave small Fiats with a bloody nose. Gear changes are slick and quick the way it should be, clutch weighted well, great brake peddle feel.

The Mk1 has hand built unique engine, its a real gem, I racked up 30K in 2 years and replaced a track control arm in all that time, drove it from Bournemouth to Glasgow a 475mile trip loads of times (once without an oil cap as i forgot to put it back on, it lost 1/2L which was half way down dip stick as it was full before i left) , and sold it for more than I paid, I wish I could say that about my Cinq.

Anyone who says they are rattly are missing the point, especially of Rallye models of a French hot hatch, light, fast, and well balanced on the limit, I would gladly sacrifice a few rattles for 150kgs of soundproofing any day of the week.

My mate back in Glasgow sold his VTS about a year back to first person who came to see it after 2 years of ownership, it was 3 years old when he got it and it needed zero done to it in his time and 40K apart from servicing, he replaced with a Focus ST170 which can't say the same.

I've been looking at 106GTi's as a replacement as my everyday runner (would love a Clio Williams but couldn't live with running it everyday, should be cherished as its special) to replace the Cinq turbo and its top of my list, especially a late model with leather.

 

[oldskoolmk1unoturbo]

My best mate has a VTS, standard looking but 150bhp, beat a honda civic type r in it, quality and he ony paid 1900 and it was already chipped, cam'd with a 4-1 manifold and filter, its gonna be on throttle bodies soon

looks completly standard apart from the grooved discs. there good cars, the 106 rallye aint exactly fast though, unless u dropped a vts engine in one?

 

[Tweedbean]

Hi thanks for everyones opinion, offf on holiday on Saturday for two weeks. Once I get back im gonna test drive a few cars and make my decision.

Couple of issues that have come up is this thread
1. Saxo = chav car I know two saxo owners, both are definatly not chavs, rock and indies on their stereos.

2.Stereotypes = saxo chavs/ sei girls car or washing machine on wheels It works for all car, its doesnt mean its true. I own a sei, as do a lot of other males on this forum. Therefore im trying to ignore the chavvy image, and buy the car that drives the best. Im looking to get a car as new as possible

3.Puntos = I personally dont like puntos, but that only my opinion. Ive drove a couple of my mates puntos and I dont like the brakes or the interior. But they love their cars so thats all that matters.

 

[Si - Punto]

Mate the Saxo is not a chav car, its just a lot of chavs have brought them because they are cheap and its easy to source aftermarket parts for them.

Pretty much any car can be chavvy if in the wrong hands.

Go for the car that puts the biggest smile on your face when you test drive it

 

[JonnyBoy]

I quite like the idea of the VTS as a weekend/trackday toy. I wouldn't want to drive one as my everyday car as they aren't the last word in comfort, but if you don't do a lot of motorway mileage it shouldn't be a problem

As for the image, nearly all of the horrible chavved-up Saxos are 1-litre/1.1's anyway; few chavs can afford the insurance on a VTS, nor can they handle a car that actually accelarates, hence they buy the cheap shopping shuttle version and stick a whacking great exhaust on it whereas a standard-looking VTS with sensible performance mods (i.e. engine, brake and suspension tweaks, no big wheels or silly bodykits & lights!) is a respectable toy

I haven't driven a VTS, but I have driven my mate's 106 Rallye which he's fitted with a mildly tweaked VTS engine (the same lump as a 106 GTi, and near as dammit the same chassis as the Saxo). It also has had most of the interior removed to save weight as he used it for trackdays. That was a fun little machine to chuck around; admittedly the gearchange was fairly dire and it rattled a lot, but that's not the point: it went like hell (my mate has since borrowed a GPS timing box and timed it at just over 6 seconds to 60! ) and on the corners it was like an overgrown go-kart!

 

[Sonic74205]

I would definatly recomment the Saxo VTS. My partner has one and its been modded a hell of alot. It is the most amazing car ive ever been in (from a racing point of view). Its also much bigger on the inside than most reviews make it out to be. If you can find one u want in ur budget then i say go for it!