General Noisy engine

[Gaz150]

Hi all I have recently bought a 08 plate bravo 1.9 multijet sport 150 and every time I start the car on a morning the engine is really tappy until it reaches normal temperature, can anyone help out on what this could be as my brother in laws ( same car) doesn't do this. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Matthewr1990]

Diesels are renowned for being a little bit noisy etc on cold starts. Some are just louder than others. If it runs normally I wouldn't be too worried. Though I've never owned a diesel so can't really be trusted with my info, I'm sure someone more informed will be along soon.

 

[Gaz150]

Yeah it's my first diesel so was just a bit worried will see how it goes cheers

 

[Matthewr1990]

Yeah it's my first diesel so was just a bit worried will see how it goes cheers

Might be worth doing simple things like changing glow plugs, oils, filters (basically a service). Just ease of mind for you as you don't know what the situation of the current oils/filters are. In fact it's a good habit to have whenever you buy a new car. Also a good engine oil will always help with cold starts as cheap oils don't work well until warm

 

[Gaz150]

Good call, what is the best oil for these cars/engines? Thinking of doing gearbox oil too as it's the M32 box

 

[Matthewr1990]

Good call, what is the best oil for these cars/engines? Thinking of doing gearbox oil too as it's the M32 box

It's not an M32 Box if it's a diesel buddy so you don't have to worry about that, the Multijet gear boxes are pretty solid mate. I'd leave it alone.

 

[stephen79]

Hi all I have recently bought a 08 plate bravo 1.9 multijet sport 150 and every time I start the car on a morning the engine is really tappy until it reaches normal temperature, can anyone help out on what this could be as my brother in laws ( same car) doesn't do this. Any help would be appreciated.

Could be a worn injector. I have an Alfa 159 Jtdm and it's a bit noisy until it warms up. I put my fiatECUscan onto it and sure enough number 2 injectors fuel delivery is a bit suspect. Not saying that you have a worn injector but might be worth investigating, especially if there is a bit of a miss in the engine.

 

[Rigby]

It's not an M32 Box if it's a diesel buddy so you don't have to worry about that, the Multijet gear boxes are pretty solid mate. I'd leave it alone.

Incorrect, the 1.9 M-jets also do have the M32 gearbox.

 

[Gaz150]

Could be a worn injector. I have an Alfa 159 Jtdm and it's a bit noisy until it warms up. I put my fiatECUscan onto it and sure enough number 2 injectors fuel delivery is a bit suspect. Not saying that you have a worn injector but might be worth investigating, especially if there is a bit of a miss in the engine.

Cheers stephen79 will have a look at this, how much are new injectors, may as well do all 4 at same time, cars only done 66k too

 

[Matthewr1990]

Incorrect, the 1.9 M-jets also do have the M32 gearbox.

Ahh I didn't know that, I know the 1.6 doesn't. Or does it?

 

[Rigby]

Ahh I didn't know that, I know the 1.6 doesn't. Or does it?

TBH I'm not 100% sure, im fairly certain the new 1.6 doesnt have the M32 because its the same block as my 2.0 that doesn't. Or did they only do the one 1.6?

 

[stephen79]

Cheers stephen79 will have a look at this, how much are new injectors, may as well do all 4 at same time, cars only done 66k too

As I said its only something that might be worth looking into but at that mileage I would be surprised its an injector bar the fuel your using is junk. My Jtdm has 240k kms on it and its only a slight misfire in it when cold. I think the injectors are an awful price. I saw some recons on ebay for 187 euro. Now that would make you think twice about buying 1 never mind 4! I know injectors for common rail are pricey.

 

[rossocorsa]

Perhaps worth trying a fuel system conditioner first?

 

[RobBravo]

FYI.

All 6 speed Bravo's feature the M32 we all know and love.

The only exception, being the 2.0 Diesel which has the vastly superior F40

 

[Gaz150]

bar the fuel your using is junk.

I bloody hope it's not the fuel that's at fault I only feed it the best shell ultimate diesel whatever it's called haha I will try a bottle of injector cleaner and new filters (oil and fuel) other than that I love the car, managed to get a new clutch and dual mass flywheel fitted through the garage when I first bought it as I couldn't get it into reverse or first, just had all new disks and pads up front, thinking of getting a remap for "efficiency" ?? haha

 

[neilshep]

FYI.

All 6 speed Bravo's feature the M32 we all know and love.

The only exception, being the 2.0 Diesel which has the vastly superior F40

except the 1.9 16V Diesel which has the 530/6 ( and the 1.9 8V Diesel with the 530/5 )

According to eLearn, only TJets have the M32

 

[RobBravo]

except the 1.9 16V Diesel which has the 530/6 ( and the 1.9 8V Diesel with the 530/5 )

According to eLearn, only TJets have the M32

I'm fairly confident the 1.9 has the M32.

Especially when you consider the alfa 159, vauxhall Astra etc etc all use the same 1.9 diesel all hooked up to the M32.

I can't really see Fiat doing it any different..

 

[neilshep]

I can't really see Fiat doing it any different..

I can't see Fiat deliberately lying in eLearn

 

[RobBravo]

I can't see Fiat deliberately lying in eLearn

Okay well, we will have to agree to disagree on this one.. If I'm wrong I'm wrong

 

[GrandeGuy]

Use a good engine flush, replace with Mobil 1. ESP oil, then put in WURTH CR fuel treatment,
But it sounds like top end is getting lazy due to oil getting dirty or wrong grade.