Technical No ASR button

[Truckcab79]

Hi All

I have a Fiat Doblo cargo Professional 2015. Bought it last September and really happy with it (ignoring the new turbo it cost me)

All good until this morning when I caught out on a hill that in any other vehicle I’d have probably got away with by switching off the ASR. ASR activated and of course I lost anything approaching traction and got stuck sideways across the road.

I have a light on the dash (car with wiggly lines behind it), and between the seat an ASR off warning light. However I appear to have absolutely no way of turning it off when needed. I’ve never had a vehicle where you couldn’t switch it off and have always needed to at some point

Googled it and searched on here and can’t find any mention of anyone having the same issue. Checked the manual and it says that there should be a switch on the dash. In the location stated, all I have is a button to position the headlight angle down. Even pressed it to makes sure someone hadn’t swapped it out with a ‘spare’ switch and lo and behold it just adjust the headlights.

Can it be that I can’t turn it off?

Switch between the seats looks like it has a blanking plate above it as if maybe that’s were it should be situated. If that’s the case is there a way to swap the switch and retro-fit. Is the wiring there anyway even if switching it off is an optional extra?! Even the manual tells you it will be needed to be switched off in snowy conditions

Thanks in advance.

 

[jackwhoo]

A light between the seats warning if asr off?
Is that light actually the asr off switch?

 

[Truckcab79]

Many thanks. That had just dawned on me and I’ve just came back in from the van. I had wondered if that was the switch and it was just stuck down.

Anyway. Prized it up and you are of course correct. Unfortunately the bit I could see is just the top of the switch and the wired up part was loose underneath. The section underneath is still connected and is now just an exposed circuit board. Now that I can see it when I turn the ignition on the orange warning light on the circuit board lights up suggesting it still works (possibly).

I must still be missing part of it as when i push the switch back up from behind its just loose. No ‘click’ or spring. Any idea what is meant to be there?

Failing that is there a reasonably priced source for a replacement? Can see one on eBay but don’t wish to pay £60 half of which is for postage from Italy.

It may be that the rest is rattling around in there somewhere but need time to take the console apart and find it.

Any idea what I’m looking for?

Short term should I be able to press the two metallic pads on the circuit board and operate it? Doesn’t appear to be the case. Maybe they need bridging with something conductive, which I haven’t yet tried.
Thanks again.

 

[jackwhoo]

Try a fiat dealer never know it may not be insanely expensive.

Search ebay for fiat asr switch it may be the same for several different models.

Don't order one from Europe unless you are prepared to pay 20%extra tax when it arrives plus handling fees by delivery company.

 

[AlwynMike]

The blank will probably be for the Stop Start switch.

Its a poor location as all the dust and detritus ends up and gets down the side of the switches.
Its worth using them every couple of weeks just to make sure they aren't stuck.

 

[Truckcab79]

Cheers. I’ve taken it apart last night and given it a good clean. Couple of vehicles being broken on eBay so I’ll see if they have it. One has already come back with a no. When you open up the top of the switch there are no springs or anything in it so I’m guessing that whatever sits between the switch top and circuit board is all either lost or at least inside the console. Will have a look when I get a chance.

 

[portland_bill]

Doblos over the last few years have been joint ventures with either Peugeot/Citroen or Vauxhall.
I don't know which yours is paired with, but it is likely to use the same switch across all makes. This widens the opportunity for a used replacement.

 

[Truckcab79]

Many thanks. Had a look at this again and the orange light came on with ignition. Unfortunately none of the missing bits which I’m guessing are contacts and a spring are anywhere to be seen. I could however turn the switch on and off by bridging a key across the contacts or at least I could until it stopped working. Need a new switch anyway but it’s also possible that I’ve fused it when messing about. Anyone know where its fused so I can rule that out as a fault when I eventually locate a new one. Doesn’t seem to be any mention in the manual or online.

Much appreciated.

 

[AlwynMike]

Dobby Handbooks are almost useless. Particularly fuse use and locations. My fuse locations in the Manual bear no resemblance to the real world. There is no such animal as a Manual for the later Dobby (outside of a Dealership).

 

[Truckcab79]

Yep. I have the original for mine and its lists about four fuses. The rest presumably they’d rather you didn’t touch.

Seems to be the norm that if this is fused then it shares it with the esp / abs but even that seems impossible to find detail on. I’m not getting fault lights on for those so I’m assuming that it hasn’t blown. Haven’t driven it since mind so possible I’ll get an error message when I set off tomorrow.

More likely that the switch is knackered of course hence why someone’s taken it apart previously.

Still drawing a blank on the switch. Have contacted no end of Breakers and eBay sellers, and of course Fiat.

Even searching via the manufacturer details (Bitron 30280328) doesn’t give much info. Any help with either parts or the fuse location appreciated.

 

[varesecrazy]

Still drawing a blank on the switch. Have contacted no end of Breakers and eBay sellers, and of course Fiat.

Even searching via the manufacturer details (Bitron 30280328) doesn’t give much info. Any help with either parts or the fuse location appreciated.

Try shop4parts.. or partsworld uk

If you get the part number that FCA use.. you can google it

 

[varesecrazy]

Still drawing a blank on the switch. Have contacted no end of Breakers and eBay sellers, and of course Fiat.

Even searching via the manufacturer details (Bitron 30280328) doesn’t give much info. Any help with either parts or the fuse location appreciated.

Try shop4parts.. or partsworld uk

If you get the part number that FCA use.. you can google it

https://www.fiatdalys.lt/en/catalog/step2/T/DOB

 

[Truckcab79]

Cheers. No issue with part number. I have the Fiat number and the Bitron one but apart form a couple in Turkey and Sweden it draws a blank. Have tried a load of breakers but only one even bothered answering. Don’t know if it was some sort of one year only item. Can’t imagine it would be.

 

[e42b]

Since your model is almost the same as the GM (Vauxhall/Opel) brand of the concerning year it might not be the worst idea to ask there as well.
BTW: "Vauxhall" is the brand in the UK. The world brand is "Opel". "Holden" in Australia.

 

[jackwhoo]

Fiat part number 735498031


Try a fiat dealer for a price .

in Europe they are around €44 new.

 

[Truckcab79]

Yep. As said I’ve got all the part numbers and have already contacted Fiat and am waiting for them to call me back. You’d assume there would be loads knocking around but apparently not.

Anyone able to answer where it’s fused?

 

[Truckcab79]

Nobody know anything about fuse location?

Less of a rush for the switch now the snow has gone so I’ll try to find one without paying full price if possible.

As far as the fuses go I’ve noticed that I don’t appear to have all the dash switch lights on. Starting to question whether they ever were but can’t imagine why they wouldn’t be. I’ve got no lights on the row of switches where the headlight up and down adjustment and the ‘set’ switch for the menu are. Also the hazard switch which while the hazards work, the red button doesn’t flash. Maybe it never did ???

If nobody knows I’ll just have to take each fuse out and check I suppose.

 

[jackwhoo]

No one knows.
You can be the first to find out and share with us.
How much is switch new from fiat in UK?

 

[Truckcab79]

Fiat never came back to me and I haven’t chased them either. It seems to be in the region of £45-60 where it is available. Worst case I’ll just buy a new one. Not the end of the world. I’m more interested in the fuses now to be honest as I know the old switch was getting power until I messed with it so would like to know when I do put a new one in that it’s not dead because I’ve buggered something else up. ?

 

[AlwynMike]

On mine...
The hazard light red bit doesn't illuminate when the hazards are on.
The switch panel does have lights, but they are on with the ignition, rather than with the light switch.
This may be different if you have DRL's deactivated.

My book says panel lights are fuse F49...along with all sorts of other electronic stuff that I don't have fitted. Might be worth having a look there to see if the fuse has gone.

If you don't have it in your book, look in the dashboard fusebox by your right knee.
You'll see two columns of fuses in the centre above a mightily thick red wire - not the column separate on the far right.
The right hand column of the two together.
3rd fuse up from the bottom is F49.

HTH.