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NEW: 9/11 helicopter video released by NYC police
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NEW: 9/11 helicopter video released by NYC police
That quality is absolutely awful - and it doesn't seem to show us anything new anyway?
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There's loads of footage of the Twin Towers, would be difficult to find anything thats not already been seen I think, still, this one hasn't been seen by the public till today.
Very strange. There's many hours of footage taken from many, many cameras all out there on the web & yet they have held this little bit back all these years.
Its obviously only a snippet of the full footage too, makes you wonder what they are STILL holding back and why?
The Americans have never had a problem sacrificing their own in order to fuel a war. Never happy unless they are killing some poor underdogs.
While I don't doubt for one moment that the Bush administration would have had no qualms about sacrificing innocent life for their own nefarious purposes, there is absolutely zero evidence that 9/11 was ever such a case. Every single conspiracy theory has been debunked by independent experts, and also totally fails to take into account the vast number of people you wold need to involve in a conspiracy of this size. it would take literaly thousands of people to plan this, and not one of them has ever decided to blow the whistle?
yeah, right
While I don't doubt for one moment that the Bush administration would have had no qualms about sacrificing innocent life for their own nefarious purposes, there is absolutely zero evidence that 9/11 was ever such a case. Every single conspiracy theory has been debunked by independent experts, and also totally fails to take into account the vast number of people you wold need to involve in a conspiracy of this size. it would take literaly thousands of people to plan this, and not one of them has ever decided to blow the whistle?
yeah, right
How many?
Perhaps you should go off and read up on Pearl Harbour.
The Americans were desperate to get involved in WW2 and needed an 'in'. They had advance notice of the attack - at least 3 days before it happened, plenty of time to withdraw personnel - yet they preferred to sit back and wait.
The twin towers was only the worst terrorist attack because of sheer numbers of innocents involved and the size of the structures coupled with the immense amount of time it took for events to pan out from the initial impact.
How different is it to organise, say, the london tube bombings or bus bombings? The only difference being that the devastation was instant rather than panning out over hours and hours with hundreds of news crews 'exciting' things up
I don't understand what you're getting at here. What does 9/11 have to do with Pearl Harbour?
Most 9/11 conspiracy theories suggest that the entire thing was staged by the Bush administration to give the excuse needed for messed up wars in the middle east. But there is zero forensic or scientific evidence to support these theories. There was an excellent documentary on Channel 4 about this not so long ago. I'll see if I can find a link
I don't understand what you're getting at here. What does 9/11 have to do with Pearl Harbour?
Most 9/11 conspiracy theories suggest that the entire thing was staged by the Bush administration to give the excuse needed for messed up wars in the middle east. But there is zero forensic or scientific evidence to support these theories. There was an excellent documentary on Channel 4 about this not so long ago. I'll see if I can find a link
You have to remember this is the internet.
It's where all the kooks live.
Without wanting to get into it all again, I think the greatest thing that the US Government managed after 9/11 was to convince the world that anyone who doesn't believe the official account is either crazy or is pissing all over the graves of the victims....
Personally I think anyone who takes the official account as gospel are the crazy ones.
Personally I think anyone who takes the official account as gospel are the crazy ones.
you said 'it would literally take thousands of people to plan (the twin towers bombing)'.
The attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbour was known about in advance by only a handful of Americans - mostly high ranking officials, it was planned by a small handfull of high ranking japanese.
And the same is true of most modern day terrorist attacks. Terrorists split into small cells where only a couple of people know each other, the leader will only release plans to one cell - the fewer people who know, the better.
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Without wanting to get into it all again, I think the greatest thing that the US Government managed after 9/11 was to convince the world that anyone who doesn't believe the official account is either crazy or is pissing all over the graves of the victims....
Personally I think anyone who takes the official account as gospel are the crazy ones.
You know the Americans are lying - they open their mouths.
all im going to say, is that the twin towers are the first concrete and steel made buildings in history to collapse through fire.
Fine.
If all you guys want to ignore the wholly INDEPENDENT mechanical, scientific and engineering evidence then be my guest.
Sludgeguts, I can only assume you're refering simply to the US govt. being aware of impending attacks and not making this knowledge public. I guess that is potentially possible.
But the 9/11 conspiracy theorists don't stop there. They believe the entire attack was actually an iside job and the the towers were laced with high explosives (totally unoticed by anybody), then detonated by US agents. And this really is just the tip of the iceberg. For every theory debunked by the experts they will find a new one.
These are the theories I refer to when I talk about a conspiracy of silence. That is a whole different kettle of fish to Bush and his cronies hushing up some classified information.
If all you guys want to ignore the wholly INDEPENDENT mechanical, scientific and engineering evidence then be my guest.
Sludgeguts, I can only assume you're refering simply to the US govt. being aware of impending attacks and not making this knowledge public. I guess that is potentially possible.
But the 9/11 conspiracy theorists don't stop there. They believe the entire attack was actually an iside job and the the towers were laced with high explosives (totally unoticed by anybody), then detonated by US agents. And this really is just the tip of the iceberg. For every theory debunked by the experts they will find a new one.
These are the theories I refer to when I talk about a conspiracy of silence. That is a whole different kettle of fish to Bush and his cronies hushing up some classified information.
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Place explosives on a few floors of the building and no one notices?
Then fly a huge plan into the building hoping you manage to hit one of the floors the explosives are on?
Yeh right. I cant believe people are so stupid they actually believe this rubbish.
Huge plane full of fuel hits building. Heat of fire softens the steel structor building falls down. Simple.
Then fly a huge plan into the building hoping you manage to hit one of the floors the explosives are on?
Yeh right. I cant believe people are so stupid they actually believe this rubbish.
Huge plane full of fuel hits building. Heat of fire softens the steel structor building falls down. Simple.
Shadey, we really must stop agreeing like this!
People are gonna start talking.....
People are gonna start talking.....
If all you guys want to ignore the wholly INDEPENDENT mechanical, scientific and engineering evidence then be my guest.
The families of the victims are still calling for an INDEPENDENT enquiry.
Some of us believe the OFFICIAL story is the truth. It doesn't mean we think GW Bush did it....
GW Bush wouldn't have the intelligence to blow his own nose. Believe me, I take no pleasure in defending the war-mongering idiot.
IF there has been a conspiracy here, it's about a failure to act on intelligence and save thousands of lives.
Suggestions that the US govt. actually sancioned the attacks are frankly ludicrous.
IF there has been a conspiracy here, it's about a failure to act on intelligence and save thousands of lives.
Suggestions that the US govt. actually sancioned the attacks are frankly ludicrous.
