NEW: 9/11 helicopter video released by NYC police

[sludgeguts]

all im going to say, is that the twin towers are the first concrete and steel made buildings in history to collapse through fire.

Exactly, that was brought up on more than one occasion but the problem was that this was linked to conspiracy theories. Iirc one suggested these were long term plans where a building is constructed using sub-standard gear, corners are cut etc & where the building would normally last many, many years these would drop to bits long before then - leaving a few very embarrased people - hence the 'attack'.
Another, along similar lines suggested this was done as an insurance job - but again, suggesting corners cut.

 

[sludgeguts]

But the 9/11 conspiracy theorists don't stop there. They believe the entire attack was actually an iside job and the the towers were laced with high explosives (totally unoticed by anybody), then detonated by US agents..

Missed that from earlier, although what I've just said leans towards that as well.

GW Bush wouldn't have the intelligence to blow his own nose. Believe me, I take no pleasure in defending the war-mongering idiot.
IF there has been a conspiracy here, it's about a failure to act on intelligence and save thousands of lives.
Suggestions that the US govt. actually sancioned the attacks are frankly ludicrous. ..

Trouble is, no matter who the figurehead is, countries are really run by the money men and these people have their own agenda. Whilst Bush et al may genuinely have known nothing, there will be the arms manufacturers/weapons builders or even some rich industrialist who would be just itching to start a war in order to cash in.

 

[ThisBitterPill]

Suggestions that the US govt. actually sancioned the attacks are frankly ludicrous.

The thing is, we'll never know for sure....The 'official' enquiry was a joke and now anyone who goes on the record and says they believe in some conspiracy theory is automatically labelled a nutjob....

Well I have read quite a lot about 9/11 (not all of it written by internet crackpots!) and I wholeheartedly believe that ELEMENTS of it were homegrown....I guess that makes me a nutjob....

 

[Prilliant03]

all im going to say, is that the twin towers are the first concrete and steel made buildings in history to collapse through fire.

And which other concrete and steel building have been subjected to thousands of gallons of burning aviation fuel immediately following the impact of 200 tonnes of aircraft?

That's the whole thing about 9/11. It was totally unprecedented. There was no previous case to learn lessons from.

 

[Prilliant03]

Well I have read quite a lot about 9/11 (not all of it written by internet crackpots!) and I wholeheartedly believe that ELEMENTS of it were homegrown....I guess that makes me a nutjob....

Not at all. There must have been warning signs that were either missed or ignored. There were almost certainly errors at a govt. level that indirectly made these attacks possible. The hijackers were certainly trained to fly inside the US. Why was this not picked up?

But this is patently not the same as blaming the US govt. for carrying out the attacks. Negligence and culpability are very different things.