General Need Turbo'd Engine For My Cinq Asap

[d4rr3n]

hey all, back again this year with my fAt cinQ

after having quite a bad prang in it back in october i am in the process of re-building her to her best standard. im desperately looking for a a ready turbo'd lump to go in it or a part finished lump as i already have a manifold adapted, intercooler and all pipes minus one turbo lol. if anyone can help it would be much apreciated.

cheerz guyz.

heres a look at the damage while your here......ouch!

http://file032b.bebo.com/2/large/2007/09/23/10/3249134121a5625102680l.jpg

 

[fingers99]

Get yourself to a scrappy and search for a GT15 off an Astra deisel. (1.7 IIRC) They do come up on eBay pretty often.

Don't forget thermostatic take off plate, oil cooler, hoses and blow off valve. Running without any of these will lead to disaster.

richcinq is selling kits, you might PM him.

 

[Brooky]

and the electronics

 

[fingers99]

and the electronics

Yeah. You need to decide whether to go for an aftermarket ECU (Megasquirt, Emerald, etc) or an MF2 and fuel cut defender.

And you'll need to find some way of reducing the compression ratio.

 

[d4rr3n]

thanks for the help, i was thinkin of a thicker head gasket although someone told me if you run it at low boost the compression shouldnt be a problem????

 

[Brooky]

i suggest you some research on the turbo conversion

 

[fingers99]

As above. Problem is, very, very few people run them at low boost for long!

A decompression plate is a possibility, but you need an adjustable cam pulley or you just can't get the timing right. Add all that lot up and you're just about in forged piston territory.

 

[jamie86]

Fingers,

My old one now Chris's if he ever gets it rebuilt hehe

Never had an issue with timing using a decomp plate and several times has seen accidently around 20 psi without issue

Although normally was around 12psi

 

[fingers99]

Fingers,

My old one now Chris's if he ever gets it rebuilt hehe

Never had an issue with timing using a decomp plate and several times has seen accidently around 20 psi without issue

Although normally was around 12psi

Guess it depends on how thick the plate is: others have had to use adjustable pulley, but there are probably other ways round it.

1232 Chris, or another one?

 

[jamie86]

Chris- Blu73

Tbh not sure on the thickness of it luckily never had to take the head off

 

[custard]

Tbh not sure on the thickness of it luckily never had to take the head off

f,nar

 

[jamie86]

f,nar

Thought we all spoke English?

 

[rallycinq]

Thought we all spoke English?

That was english, with a Viz twang.

Cheers

D

 

[Whiley]

lo mate been a while since i saw you and the car sometime last year lol! ive got an mf2 and a thor racing fcd up for grabs if want drop me a line, ps how'd you crash?

 

[scottc1088]

i used a decomp plate on my old 1242 hb turbo and had no problems at all. how can the spacer affect the cam timing?

 

[fingers99]

From memory, people (or someone!) were finding that there was no way of getting the tensioner pulley on, ergo, you needed an adjustable pulley.

In this, I'm only reporting what people -- someone -- has said, and on here. I'd not dream of using a decompression plate myself.

 

[GoBe]

Easy, the distance between the middle of the crank and cam pulley, 400mm, going up the block is a specific number of teeth on the belt, say 20. Now if you have 30 teeth on the cam pulley (12º a tooth) and you increase the distance between the two pulleys to say 410mm then you have 20.5 teeth between the centres. This half tooth adjustment equals 6º which means you can either advance or retard the cam 6º unless you use a vernier pulley to adjust the cam timing.

Does that make sense?

 

[blu73]

Fingers,

My old one now Chris's if he ever gets it rebuilt hehe

Never had an issue with timing using a decomp plate and several times has seen accidently around 20 psi without issue

Although normally was around 12psi

Oi, i'll get there, i'm just not as fast as some people on here at getting stuff done. And i'm at wiring now and tbh haven't got a clue what i'm doing so takes time.

But yes, the decomp plate is fine on my engine without adjustable pulley or anything. Yes technically a decomp plate is a bit of a bodge, but a well engineered bodge, my car has had what 3 owners since being made high boost and timing has never been an issue with it at all. ie, done properly decomp should be fine.
And yes the car was running 20psi for a while with no ill effects, thats should be sorted now though, but we'll find out when it gets running again.

 

[GhostWKD]

thanks for the help, i was thinkin of a thicker head gasket although someone told me if you run it at low boost the compression shouldnt be a problem????

That was probably me when i was looking for someone to weld pipe for me off my turbo cinq? think that was the time spoke to you, was either then or when i needed a tyre putting on a wheel

But thicker HG/decomp plate has problems like others have said, though done properly shouldnt be a problem. my old cinq turbo still going strong on a decomp plate

 

[d4rr3n]

ah yea, i remeber u coming down with the guy in the orage cinq aswell. found a guy with a fully re-built turbo lump with forged pistons n rods etc. going to look into it as my old lump is history now and van aaken are no more i think as their number is cut off and no more web site.