Styling My seicento Project

[J333EVO]

also connected up a few pipes and fitted fuel regulator that come with the turbo sei for some reason (mise aswell fit it as they are £70 on ebay lol)

Unless you plumb this in series with the 2nd injector, and not the same parallel way that VAD set them up this will have no value what so ever as the fuel will always take the easiest route and this will be through the regulator in the throttle body as factory they are set to be between 0.8-1.2bar a big variable, so if car is on lower set up say 0.8bar fuel pressure and you run 0.6bar boost pressure, say good bye pistons as you're getting 0.2bar fuel pressure so very lean.

If you don't understand see my pics to see how my 2nd injector & fuel pressure regulator are plumbed in, this way i can run the 2nd injector on idle 2.5bar and on boost 3bar of pressure, and primary injector has been raised to 1.4bar by means of adjusting the built in adjuster.

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[The younger modder]

loving this car like emm and others after the first few pics i was thinking it was a bit OTT but after reading through all 11 pages ive got to say im very impressed asyou ave modified every aspect of the car and with good ideas rather than off the shelf sub boxes etc

now the rear 15" screen how good is it and where did you get this from and how much? just im thinking of fitting one in my car for my ps2 as the 5" sun visor screens are annoyingly small:bang:

and just so im sure what engine is in? im assuming its the uno turbo motor but read that you mentioned a sei turbo motor but my memorys gone since that page half an hour ago :shakehead if it was the uno turbo motor how easy was the conversion as you seemed reasonably confident on it?

Good luck with the project

wayne

 

[custard]

1108cc

 

[gazzaman2k]

now the rear 15" screen how good is it and where did you get this from and how much? just im thinking of fitting one in my car for my ps2 as the 5" sun visor screens are annoyingly small:bang:

and just so im sure what engine is in? im assuming its the uno turbo motor but read that you mentioned a sei turbo motor but my memorys gone since that page half an hour ago :shakehead if it was the uno turbo motor how easy was the conversion as you seemed reasonably confident on it?

Good luck with the project

wayne

hi cheers for the comments the scren i got from a seller on ebay called eonon was about £170 delivered, engine was going to be the uno turbo mk1 engine but i didnt have the relevant skills to fit this myself (learning as im doing it you see) so had to get rid and source the 1.1 VAD kit which i happened to buy the only other modded seicento in leicester lol (just 5mins away)

going to take few more pics today as ive ran out of things to do now till my electroics come through the post and when i got enough money to buy the hoses i need

 

[gazzaman2k]

today just put the car back together as cant really do anything else till i get paid, and till my electronics come through the post.

just tidied cables/pipes, go nice space for piperX induction to go, put headlights back in, put new bonnet on (which will be badboyed and vented when i can be bothered) painted calipers red (still got to do the back calipers) i have wirebrushed the bits of paint off the discs

also put some tar bitchamin stuff under arches to help stop rust ect....

put bumper back on too which fits perfectly with intercooler ect... also put washer bottle back on and put wheel liner in the passenger side, cant put it on drivers side till i have changed some hoses to silicon

just need my electronic fuel injector controller/boost guage/rev counter to come and to save £120 for my silicon hoses to be made then it will be finished under the bonnet

stay tuned peeps

@J333EVO

is my fuel reg plummed in correctly then?

 

[J333EVO]

@J333EVO

is my fuel reg plumbed in correctly then?

Can't really tell from those pics, but doesn't look like it.

You need to run the fuel pipe feed to t-piece one going to 2nd injector then other going to fuel pressure regulator as it has to be after of the injector its feeding, the return from the regulator then goes to the throttle body top to feed the primary injector as this is controlled by its own inbuilt regulator found inside the throttle body and normally sealed by blue wax, you can unpick this and turn clockwise to increase pressure, factory its anywhere between 0.8-1.2bar, I suggest running at 1.4bar, and 2.5bar on 2nd injector and make sure its all set up on a rolling road with someone who knows what they are doing otherwise you coudl either be very lean or very rich.

As you have it i can see a t-piece after the regulator meaning that it will not work.

I suggest that you invest in a fuel pressure gauge like the ones found here www.fuelsystem.co.uk and check all the pressures, remember to get the pressure you need to put the gauge in before the regulator to get the pressure.

 

[randomizered]

Did you not transfer the old rubber dust protector and spring cover from the old shocks onto the new one? I thought they needed to be?

Also, apparently its best to move the fittings over to the new hoses, the main area of contact it on the body, behind the damper, looks like there will be lots of contact there.

Really appreciate all the pics though, really make each little update exciting lol

Kristian

 

[gazzaman2k]

how do i know what bar the fuel will be running at on 2nd injector? it will be a direct feed into the 2nd injector from the fuel tank? all that the injector controller will do is open/close the injector to allow more or less fuel in?

do i use the reg to power both injectors or just the 2nd injector? or just the standard one?

the way i have it linked up is if you check the pic below which is powering both injectors at the mo can change this next time if wrong.

@ kritip

i tried to transfer them over but they had long gone and perished didnt know where sells new ones so left off

 

[bad_boy_cinq]

Coming along very nice, good work. Liking the intercooler keep up the good work.

 

[J333EVO]

how do i know what bar the fuel will be running at on 2nd injector? it will be a direct feed into the 2nd injector from the fuel tank? all that the injector controller will do is open/close the injector to allow more or less fuel in?

do i use the reg to power both injectors or just the 2nd injector? or just the standard one?

the way i have it linked up is if you check the pic below which is powering both injectors at the mo can change this next time if wrong.

The way you have all you are pressurising is the fuel from the tank to the regulator everything thereafter is not pressurised by it at all making it redundant, but by the regulator inside the throttle body.

I will explain again, the regulator only pressurises fuel before it, not after it. Imagine blowing down a straw and squeezing it smaller it would be harder to blow down as the pressure before your fingers would increase, after your fingers its no different, same principle.

So you run the fuel line direct to a T-piece before the 2nd injector and the line off the T-piece to the regulator, this will pressurise the fuel upstream of the regulator i.e the 2nd injector, the return from the regulator then goes to the throttle body where by its lower pressure is set by the inbuilt regulator, you can clearly see this in the pics of my car.

HTH, Aaron.

 

[gazzaman2k]

ah i get you now thats made it alot clearer to understand, so basically i want to just do a direct line to the 2nd injector and use the fuel reg on the standard injector as that cheers

 

[GhostWKD]

Just thought i'd add to this as its something i've been pondering aaron, but do you think that its possible my cinq has already had the fuel pressure played with? (well not so much possible more probable?) as its gone 6 years+ of being turbo'd without a rebuild at all (touching wood by the way lol just incase!) so if it is running lean it cant be running *that* lean if you catch my drift? (like i said at pod, pretty sure its overfueling by the flames etc)

Also looked on ebay and by the looks of it a fuel pressure gauge is going to be pretty cheap to get hold of

 

[J333EVO]

No this is what you need to do

Alex i do not believe that VAD adjusted the fuel pressure as the was seal would have to have been removed from the pressure regulator inside the throttle body. As i said at Santa pod, even when my car was on full settings on MF2 mine still ran lean. i believe that this is the single reason why they stopped doing hi-boosts as if you got a car running fuel pressure of 0.8bar (factory set is between 0.8-1.2bar) and ran 0.6bar boost you get fuel pressure of 0.2bar i.e a dribble not a jet of fuel. This is why they capped hi-boosts to 0.5/6 bar anymore and the car would last maybe a few thousand miles if lucky, you know what happened to Alex's car.

And as you have fitted a 40mm throttle body you have increase area by 25% so have in fact leaned the fuel mixture down.

There are a few on ebay and such like this I know of one integrale owner and reporting no problems http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adjustable-Pe...9QQihZ018QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[GhostWKD]

will get it looked into asap either way and saw the regulator with gauge and was thinking maybe 2 birds with 1 stone kind of thing

 

[b29a07z89]

where do you get a seicento bodykit like that from?
having struggle finding bodykits!
also aswell where can i find some decent alloys for a seicento?

 

[gazzaman2k]

i got the bodykit from ebay decent alloys for seicento...... hmmm

smoors, KN minators, khan racing, wolfrace octane, depends what kind your looking for theres loads to choose from

 

[gazzaman2k]

it was my birthday today lol package from hong kong great way to avoid tax hehe

its tiny will look great somewhere in the car (not decided yet )

 

[OwenS]

it was my birthday today lol package from hong kong great way to avoid tax hehe

its tiny will look great somewhere in the car (not decided yet )

Sorry, call me a prick.. but what is that thingy?

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

Fueling heaven

Jordan

 

[GhostWKD]

and boost control heaven

btw if you spot another cheap boost controller gaz give me a shout

fitting t/timer at weekend if it turns up i think