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KoArAnG said:There's a weight reduction of 20 kg by swapping to this system, I don't know how heavy 20 kg is, any ideas
20 bags of sugar lol
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KoArAnG said:Well I'm off with the modding already and I ain't got the car yet
Dealers are now in the process of getting a Miltec performance exhaust ordered and fitted before I get the car next wednesday.
That combined with a remap will see the car up to 300bhp... oooh I can't wait :slayer:
A petrolhead at work (actually an ex member of FF) went on about "torque steer" today. Something to do with having lots of power on a front wheel drive car. He claimed 250 is excessive. Not saying he is right but if such a phenomenon exists what effect will 300 horses have on the drive?
torque steer is common to all powerful front wheel drive cars though the newer suspension set ups help.so im led to believe since i havent driven them.
basically under power the car pulls to one side. in the wet the cinq turbo can torque steer if your not ready for it and flooring it
basically under power the car pulls to one side. in the wet the cinq turbo can torque steer if your not ready for it and flooring it
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Torque Steer is the influence of the engines torque on the steering of the car... steering is usually set up to have a self centering tendancy.
e.g. halfway around a round about you push the accelerator open and the torque from the engine will result in the front wheels attempting to self centre which, if you put your thumbs through the steering wheel can result in broken ones as the steering wheel is ripped out of your hands when front wheels do try to self centre... that lampost that you were gonna pass on your nearside should now be looming large in the centre of your windscreen (Lancia Delta Turbo - late 80's ) Basically the more power & torque the FWD car has the greater the tendency will be...
e.g. halfway around a round about you push the accelerator open and the torque from the engine will result in the front wheels attempting to self centre which, if you put your thumbs through the steering wheel can result in broken ones as the steering wheel is ripped out of your hands when front wheels do try to self centre... that lampost that you were gonna pass on your nearside should now be looming large in the centre of your windscreen
(Lancia Delta Turbo - late 80's ) Basically the more power & torque the FWD car has the greater the tendency will be...
wotnowarninglight said:Torque Steer is the influence of the engines torque on the steering of the car... steering is usually set up to have a self centering tendancy.
e.g. halfway around a round about you push the accelerator open and the torque from the engine will result in the front wheels attempting to self centre which, if you put your thumbs through the steering wheel can result in broken ones as the steering wheel is ripped out of your hands when front wheels do try to self centre... that lampost that you were gonna pass on your nearside should now be looming large in the centre of your windscreen
Wish my petrolhead mate would have put it like that then it would have made sense.
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wolfracepunto said:That sounds ace mate. 300bhp lol :devil: So when's the Vauxhall-Skoda meet up then
Does the Miltek make any different noise?
The sounds are apparently a lot better with the Miltec system,
I spoke to the guy from Thorney Motorsports today and what a top bloke.
Vauxhall have given them an Astra VXR to work on to get all the maps perfected.
The following links are a couple of videos featuring the astra vxr and the miltec exhaust. Sounds very nice.
http://www.millteksport.com/media.file.cfm?fileid=311
http://www.millteksport.com/media.file.cfm?fileid=314
1.8Stilo said:Looks good.. You sticking with the centre exit as that looks
Also yeah i know what you mean, fiat should get something going on with supersprint! And it not voiding those parts on your warrenty is ace.. also do they know about the remap? will this not effect the warrenty either!
Cant wait till im older and able to get a decent insurance premium, on something with a turbo and nice big fat bhp, lol
Yes I'm sticking with the centre exit, it's the only option for one thing as it's a direct replacement exhaust, designed to make a swap over as effortless as possible.
What you will notice is the different shape of the rear exit, it's oval on the miltec ones and a trapezoid shape on the standard setup.
Warranty after the remap is slightly different, any part broken linked to a remap by this company will not be covered by Vauxhall, but the company doing the maps will cover it so your safe whichever way you look at it.
But a breakage is highly unlikely, it's been said by a quite a few places that the engine in the Astra VXR is good for up to 400bhp without worrying about over stress so a 300bhp upgrade is well within the limits.
That's a lot if it's rightstripey stilo said:20 bags of sugar lol
Cheers mate bozzy said:
Yeah it does exsist for sure, but the Astra vxr's torque steer is well over hyped thanks to mr clarkson (sp) I have spoken to a lot of people who have had this done and the guy doing the work and it's perfectly fine. That company test the car out on a track regularly. John Thorney phoned me today and said he has the option to go home in any car that the company own, including Porche's and he chooses the astra vxr every time because it's just so fun to drive.
The remap is linked to the sport button in the car, so when on you have around 300bhp but when off it's down to 260bhp, obviously with the full exhaust fitted.
I floored that car when I went for my test drive and it pulled so hard, the torque steer was almost unnoticeable.
ever so slightly late to this one, but what the hay....
awsome choice mate, superb car as is, if only i could afford one. so much for keeping it standard though, i suppose the bug has bitten hard, even though its not really visual (not that you really need them, looks agro enough :yum: )
nice one mate
awsome choice mate, superb car as is, if only i could afford one. so much for keeping it standard though, i suppose the bug has bitten hard, even though its not really visual (not that you really need them, looks agro enough :yum: )
nice one mate
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Cheers AndyAndy_sx said:ever so slightly late to this one, but what the hay....
awsome choice mate, superb car as is, if only i could afford one. so much for keeping it standard though, i suppose the bug has bitten hard, even though its not really visual (not that you really need them, looks agro enough :yum: )
nice one mate
4 days to go :bang:As far as the mods go, I did intend to get it remapped soon but not the exhaust done too, but I figured I'd rather get it all seen to as soon as possible so I can enjoy the car fully for the whole time I own it. Makes sense to me because the Stilo I have only just finished and now I get to sell it rather than reap the rewards.
Koa where did you get the figure 300 from? 63BHP seems an awfully big increase from chipping and an exhaust? I'd expect more 280 ish?! Have you a link to the tuning company?
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It's a definite figure Pinin, the remap will give 40+ bhp alone, ask Nige that one as he quoted 40 bhp increase with an Angel remap with no other mods, and combined with full system which gives an extra 15+ bhp it's a big increase.
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Ah right so you're talking 290BHP then? and that's if the remap does give you the full 40BHP. You may end up with 280BHP once on the rollers which is what I predict. Well that's still a mighty figure from stage one mods, and something a coupe cannot achieve with those mods.
thats a beautiful motor m8, i've just shown the missus who is a vauxhall lover and now she is right on my case to sign my life away but i have told her she has no chance (yet) as the amount of money i've spent on my project stilo and the fact i love it so much, me thinks you are responsible for a divorce here
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pinin__prestatyn said:Ah right so you're talking 290BHP then? and that's if the remap does give you the full 40BHP. You may end up with 280BHP once on the rollers which is what I predict. Well that's still a mighty figure from stage one mods, and something a coupe cannot achieve with those mods.
Wel if we are being picky then nope what's predicted is between 290 and 300 bhp. There's a few people have had it done and that's the figures they are getting and it all depends on the age of the engine.
237? Standard (although most places are quoting 240) + remap 40+ bhp = 277-280 bhp
+15 for the zorst = 292 minimum 295 optimum.
Either way, I'll wait till it's done and get the proper figures but speaking to the guys at the tuning centre it's very acurate.
He says they are putting a remapped astra vxr engine on an atom
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aaargh, I am sorry mate :worship:yorobbo said:
Cheers for compliment yorobbo
A VXR engine in an atom will be sick, however I believe they were using a supercharged version of the CTR engine anyway which yielded 300BHP. certainly made Clarkson's face distort either way!
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well i saw one of these in black yesterday and the shape does stand out.was moving through traffic at the time but it was still eyecatching in black
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Yeah, I have seen a few black ones now in pictures and they look quite nice but not as good as red or blue :slayer:custard boy said:well i saw one of these in black yesterday and the shape does stand out.was moving through traffic at the time but it was still eyecatching in black
nah if they did a yellow one,then you are talking my language
