General mckrich chip???- punt 60.

[arc]

if its for 1.1, it will run the 1.2, but rough as shte. It might not help you atall.

says who..anyway, you're wrong.

When i emailed him, im sure he said he did them for the 1108 and the 1242 but not 1.2 SPI which is a bit upsetting lol

you mean the 1.2 (1242) MPI not SPI don't you? Cos the chips works on both 1108 and 1242 SPI engines.

BUT some ECU's need to be broken into and others just unscrew. The ones that need broken into are sealed units and are soldered, so all you need to do it unsolder to get it out, but others just dis-assemble or similar and clip into place.

The ECU's on the mk1 SPI cars (and the punto75 actually) are all similar looking. None of them that ive seen are screwed together. To open them, you cut the seal on the bottom and prise the baseplate out. Its very easy.

I've no idea though which Punto ECU's are soldered and which aren't. Can pretty much figure it out for centos, but not puntos.

Ok, now onto actually using the chip in a punto60. I have a mckrich chip in my cinq, and have done for ages - but a spare ECU that i bought had what i think was a clone of a cinq novitec chip in it. I ran that ECU in my car to compare to the mckrich chip - not long after that i took the chip out and went back to mckcrich chip. I leant the 'novitec' chip to gex who ran the chip in his 1242 sei, it worked pretty well - but did have a slight hesitation issue. He bought himself a mckcrich chip and i got the novitec back.

Whats this got to do with things ur wondering. Once i had the chip back, in my spare ECU i tested it out on my flatmates 1242 punto60. It worked fine. Car was quicker, more responsive. It was only a short test (25mile or so) but i just wanted to see if it worked, and it did.

So by my reckoning, mckrich chip should work - seeing as though a cinq novitec clone chip works in 1242 punto60.

 

[Oldschool]

says who..anyway, you're wrong.



you mean the 1.2 (1242) MPI not SPI don't you? Cos the chips works on both 1108 and 1242 SPI engines.



The ECU's on the mk1 SPI cars (and the punto75 actually) are all similar looking. None of them that ive seen are screwed together. To open them, you cut the seal on the bottom and prise the baseplate out. Its very easy.

I've no idea though which Punto ECU's are soldered and which aren't. Can pretty much figure it out for centos, but not puntos.

Ok, now onto actually using the chip in a punto60. I have a mckrich chip in my cinq, and have done for ages - but a spare ECU that i bought had what i think was a clone of a cinq novitec chip in it. I ran that ECU in my car to compare to the mckrich chip - not long after that i took the chip out and went back to mckcrich chip. I leant the 'novitec' chip to gex who ran the chip in his 1242 sei, it worked pretty well - but did have a slight hesitation issue. He bought himself a mckcrich chip and i got the novitec back.

Whats this got to do with things ur wondering. Once i had the chip back, in my spare ECU i tested it out on my flatmates 1242 punto60. It worked fine. Car was quicker, more responsive. It was only a short test (25mile or so) but i just wanted to see if it worked, and it did.

So by my reckoning, mckrich chip should work - seeing as though a cinq novitec clone chip works in 1242 punto60.

I am glad that you picked up on this Mark. And I think it should be addressed anyway. There is opinion and facts. Opinions should not dilute facts. I have to be with you on this (arc and custardboy). It would be good if some of you guys do not pretend to be experts when you aren't.
The comment faster4tec made regarding mckrich is more than inconsiderate. The man spent a lot of money and time to do some work. Whether I have to consider him competition or not he did a good job. Someone who hasn't got the expertise should not comment on things he doesn't really undertsand. This forum is meant to be above the level of public house talk.
It does anger me when a lot of effort of myself and fellow competitors is run down in this way.
Stop wasting the time of people like arc, custardboy, the moderators and other people whohave the expertise and humble yourself a bit.
And you faster4tec should apologise to mckritch for the comment.

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

I am glad that you picked up on this Mark. And I think it should be addressed anyway. There is opinion and facts. Opinions should not dilute facts. I have to be with you on this (arc and custardboy). It would be good if some of you guys do not pretend to be experts when you aren't.
The comment faster4tec made regarding mckrich is more than inconsiderate. The man spent a lot of money and time to do some work. Whether I have to consider him competition or not he did a good job. Someone who hasn't got the expertise should not comment on things he doesn't really undertsand. This forum is meant to be above the level of public house talk.
It does anger me when a lot of effort of myself and fellow competitors is run down in this way.
Stop wasting the time of people like arc, custardboy, the moderators and other people whohave the expertise and humble yourself a bit.
And you faster4tec should apologise to mckritch for the comment.

I wasnt trying to pretend i was an expert, i just put down what i knew (made one small mistake in the process of saying SPI instead of MPI) but thats all, hope i am not in this catagory of being a one of these people! I agree that the comment about Mckritchs chips was unjust, but i also said this earlier and that he had worked alongside an ECU specialist to develop these chips, and even mentioned that it eliminates the Red key system if the car has one i think alot of us know that the experts like yourself who know the most on these subjects cannot always make time to answer or find these questions,which is why some of us (me personally) try to give as much accurate info as possible

 

[Oldschool]

I wasnt trying to pretend i was an expert, i just put down what i knew (made one small mistake in the process of saying SPI instead of MPI) but thats all, hope i am not in this catagory of being a one of these people! I agree that the comment about Mckritchs chips was unjust, but i also said this earlier and that he had worked alongside an ECU specialist to develop these chips, and even mentioned that it eliminates the Red key system if the car has one i think alot of us know that the experts like yourself who know the most on these subjects cannot always make time to answer or find these questions,which is why some of us (me personally) try to give as much accurate info as possible

In this instance I pointed not at you. You made some mistake which I did not relate this. And I appreciate that you are trying to be helpful and are willinmg to contribute. Please do not get me wrong here.
It was more likely addressed to faster4_tec who was rather out of order to say the least. He doesn't seem to understand what people like mckrich going through when developing a product (especially when we have to operate on a budget far from what Fiat has got). I actually expect an apology from him addressed to mckrich. And he should do his homework before talking.
BTW I would expect from anyone else also to be put right when I am wrong.

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

Ah thts ok then, just makin sure i hadnt offended, please dont let any remark as such get you down, im sure all your customers appreciate the work you do and the low prices both of you sell at for the work that has gone into them Smile and keep up the good work

 

[chaos]

The whole idea of a forum is to exchange ideas and theories, and correct when necessary, so that everyone learns the correct thing at the end of the day. faster4tec's responses were wrong - a search in the cinq section would have contradicted what he said. faster4tec was wrong to effectively rubbish McKritch. However, this may have been due to total ignorance of McKritch's presence on this forum, as he is not on FF every day, and to my knowledge doesn't go outside of the Cinq forum that often (but please correct me if I'm wrong ). A search on faster4tec's part would have explained to him what McKritch's chip does. A simple 'I don't know what a McKritch chip is' would have done, then it could have been explained to faster4tec, or he could have searched for McKritch on the forum, where he would have found all the answers. However, rubbishing stuff where you don't know enough about it (if anything at all) is not a good thing.

Oh and Beau, a search would have brought up the cost of a chip, insurance implications and an approximate power increase. Another option would have been to PM McKritch

 

[chaos]

Ah thts ok then, just makin sure i hadnt offended, please dont let any remark as such get you down, im sure all your customers appreciate the work you do and the low prices both of you sell at for the work that has gone into them Smile and keep up the good work

Every expert on here, whether its to do with tuning (OldSchool, McKritch and Smokeme) or a specific model (e.g. Dave and Puntos) contributes an important and worthy contribution to the forum as a whole. Without them, this forum would be nothing.

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

Every expert on here, whether its to do with tuning (OldSchool, McKritch and Smokeme) or a specific model (e.g. Dave and Puntos) contributes an important and worthy contribution to the forum as a whole. Without them, this forum would be nothing.

Amen :slayer:

:yum:

 

[beau]

ok, i just checked and we have all been spelling his user name wrong

it is infact- mckcrich

 

[chaos]

ok, i just checked and we have all been spelling his user name wrong

it is infact- mckcrich

Oops Sorry McKcrich

 

[dave]

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