General £8995 at dealers

[wegi]

You could have had my 2.0Mjet ;-) And just look at it shine!

Really nice car, but it's cause of the insurance. For some reason the diesel engines are remarkably more expensive on insurance than the petrols...

Beats me...

 

[bravo jtdM150]

2.0 diesel is just as fast as the tjet if not quicker plus it a easy and cheap remap to get well over 200bhp, even on the 1.9.

 

[wegi]

I already have a tuning box Not putting it on for a while though.

 

[JTD_Liam]

Glasses Guide says the following:

Fiat Bravo Sport
1.4 Petrol 5-door Hatchback
6 Speed Manual Front Wheel Drive
Year: 2009 59
Mileage: 25,000

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£7230
Average condition:
£6810
Below average condition:
£6160

On that basis i'd say a private sale should be advertised for £7995 and a dealer would usually add £1000 onto each respective price (excellent condition, average condition etc).

Therefore £8495 might be about £200 too much, but getting one for £1000-£1500 less can't be widely achievable.

 

[RobW]

After reading through these I really don't think I got a bad deal at all.

good, glad you are happy with it

reading through this thread makes me very happy about the deal i got 6 months ago on a car the same model and colour as yours for £5900

2008 '08' on 36k when i bought it

 

[bravo jtdM150]

i got back £7200 after 2 and half years and after 36,000 miles not bad for a 3 year old fiat.

 

[JTD_Liam]

i got back £7200 after 2 and half years and after 36,000 miles not bad for a 3 year old fiat.

Seems like the Bravo (at least the diesels, not looked so much at petrol) are losing money slower than the Stilo JTD anyway.

I paid £3950 for my Sept 2004 '54' plate Stilo JTD Dynamic in Sept 2008, with 50,000 miles on the clock, from a Volvo main dealer.

As the earliest New Bravos are not quite 4 years old (will be in June/July), an 07 plate is the nearest i can use for comparison. Looking on AutoTrader shows a July 2007 '07' plate 1.9 Multijet Active with 39,000 miles for £5549 as a private sale.

Now i know the mileage is lower than my Stilo was, but the Active trim is also lower than my Dynamic, so i'd think what boosts it's value (lower mileage) also lowers it abit with lower trim level. Also generally dealers charge more so it could be up for £5995 (or maybe more) at a dealer like where i got mine from.

So at £2k more than what i paid for the Stilo, even though some people may think the Bravo loses money quickly, clearly it's not quite as quick as its predecessor!

EDIT: Info i've found suggests my Stilo was around £13k new (5dr Dynamic was £13835 in 2002). I'd imagine the Bravo was slightly cheaper, as the entry models were advertised at £10,995 on TV. Obviously that affects the % of depreciation, in the Bravo's favour.

 

[STILO NEWBIE]

Seems like the Bravo (at least the diesels, not looked so much at petrol) are losing money slower than the Stilo JTD anyway.

I paid £3950 for my Sept 2004 '54' plate Stilo JTD Dynamic in Sept 2008, with 50,000 miles on the clock, from a Volvo main dealer.

You paid too much!!!
I paid 4600pounds for my 04 3drs JTD back in 2007 with 20k on the clock and couple months warrenty left!!! I sold it a year later for 4000pounds with 60k on the clock!!! best deal I had!!!
Then I bought my 1.9 mjet bravo brabd new if I didn't swap from stilo to bravo, the stilo will have 140k on the clock (think it will still going!!!) but I will £16000 richer!!!

 

[wegi]

I don't really see how someone can pay "too much" for a car.
The buyer agrees to pay however much is asked. It's up to the buyer to decide whether it sounds like a pretty fair offer.

Just because theres guide prices doesn't mean that they're always achievable or even correct.

The money I paid for my Bravo may have been more than other peoples similar purchases but at the end of the day it's exactly the car I wanted (except no red interior trim!!) and I'm extremely pleased to own it considering they are rare anywhere near where I live.

 

[bravo jtdM150]

I think i got a great deal.. 6 month old Bravo M-Jet Sport 150, with full leather interior, 6k on the clock, in mint condition for £9450 30 months later got back £7250 having done over 30k ( thats a P/X price )

How much did you people pay for your bravo's? include specs/age/mileage, i doubt anyone can beat my deal

 

[cardinalbiggles]

How much did you people pay for your bravo's? include specs/age/mileage, i doubt anyone can beat my deal

£12400 for mine including a removable towbar. Brand new unregistered 165 Sport in Maranello red. That was in September 2009 (59). It seems to have tyre pressure censors as well which I dont know if they are standard or not.

I am guessing Fiat were trying to punt a load of them as there were a few unregistered in that colour available. They wouldnt negotiate at all on the price either

28k miles later and I guess its worth 8 or 9k tops but I knew it was going to drop in value quickly and I am keeping hold of it until it starts causing me problems, if it lasts me another 4 years trouble free I will be happy (gives me enough time to save all the money for my next one).

 

[Hellcat]

Think I must have the most depreciated Bravo here, 07 Sport multijet?

Oh the pain for being in early Just kidding, well worth the money. Loved (loving) nearly every moment of ownership.

 

[RobW]

found this:

Depreciation Index: Small family hatchbacks
Review
Added: 09 Mar 2010
Last update: 09 Mar 2010


• Small family hatchbacks (1.6 petrols*) show big differences from one brand to another
• Good news as Toyota stays in top 5 best performers
• Peugeot and Vauxhall among the ‘half-price’ bargains for used car buyers
• Honda and Audi top best buys new if planning to trade in at MOT

Used Car Expert magazine has taken a selection of the best-selling small family hatchbacks and compared the three year old values against their new price.

Many new car buyers will have lost up to 50% of their money in this time and with average mileages for 3 year old petrol cars at under 30,000 in most cases, used car buyers have a great opportunity to buy cars with 50-70,000 reliable miles motoring at half price.

Editor Matt Tumbridge commented, “As ever, this depreciation index shows that car buyers need to look up the average mileage and depreciation for the model of car they want because this has thrown up some surprises. Had we run this for diesel engines, the results would have been different again. We went with petrol this time because we keep hearing of car buyers taking on a 3 year old diesel and being stung for heavy service costs. It’s far better to buy a very cheap petrol and pay slightly more in fuel but avoid heavy depreciation and service costs.”

The results show some overdue good news for Toyota, Tumbridge commented, “As we said at the height of the recall announcements, it was highly unlikely that long-term residuals would suffer. So if anyone did take a chance and buy a Toyota privately because it seemed cheap, they can now breathe a sigh of relief. It’s business as normal for Toyota.”

Small family hatchbacks - 1.6 or equivalent petrol

Make Model New price 3 year old price Loss %
Honda Civic £14,200.00 £11,955.00 £2,245.00 15.81%
Audi A3 £16,770.00 £12,400.00 £4,370.00 26.06%
Hyundai i30 £13,200.00 £9,300.00 £3,900.00 29.55%
Toyota Auris £14,500.00 £9,800.00 £4,700.00 32.41%
Volkswagen Golf £14,000.00 £9,055.00 £4,945.00 35.32%
Mazda 3 £11,900.00 £7,500.00 £4,400.00 36.97%
Renault Megane £14,000.00 £8,772.00 £5,228.00 37.34%
Kia Ceed £13,100.00 £7,770.00 £5,330.00 40.69%
Fiat Bravo £14,000.00 £8,300.00 £5,700.00 40.71%
Seat Leon £14,490.00 £8,200.00 £6,290.00 43.41%
Ford Focus £14,000.00 £7,821.00 £6,179.00 44.14%
Vauxhall Astra £15,000.00 £7,800.00 £7,200.00 48.00%
Peugeot 307 £14,600.00 £6,700.00 £7,900.00 54.11%

http://www.usedcarexpert.co.uk/article.aspx?KB_ID=1835


so as a example on Petrol models the Bravo holds value better than Seat, Ford, Vauxhall and Peugeot

 

[JTD_Liam]

You paid too much!!!
I paid 4600pounds for my 04 3drs JTD back in 2007 with 20k on the clock and couple months warrenty left!!! I sold it a year later for 4000pounds with 60k on the clock!!! best deal I had!!!
Then I bought my 1.9 mjet bravo brabd new if I didn't swap from stilo to bravo, the stilo will have 140k on the clock (think it will still going!!!) but I will £16000 richer!!!

I don't think i paid too much at all. It's true you got a very good deal in 2007, but if you sold your 04 plate with 60k on the clock in 2008 (same time i bought mine) for £4000, then my newer 54 plate with 50k miles (10k less than yours at the time) for £3950 sounds quite a good deal to me too. It's not massively cheaper than what you bought yours for in 2007, but from your selling price of £4000 in 2008, it was obviously the price being commanded by the market at the time.

Besides, i did happen to look on AutoTrader & compare it to other similar Stilo's. It had 3 months warranty from the dealer, a new MOT & had just had new tyres all round by the look of them, so i wasn't complaining. Im also pleased that Stilo's depreciation (at least on the JTDs) has slowed down quite alot since i bought mine, so i've lost about £1300 in 2.5 years, which is fine by me.

found this:



http://www.usedcarexpert.co.uk/article.aspx?KB_ID=1835


so as a example on Petrol models the Bravo holds value better than Seat, Ford, Vauxhall and Peugeot

That's pretty encouraging. I'd think Fiat will be happy with that. I suppose Vauxhall & Ford's problem is oversupply, but i am quite suprised about Seat as they always look like a rip off second hand. Maybe they were even more of a rip off new, hence the bigger % drop over the more realisticly priced Bravo.

I guess Fiat Groups current strategy of raising list prices shortly after launch helps. They've done this a fair bit recently (500, Bravo, Alfa MiTo) & it seems to be helping support used prices & keep demand for 2nd hand stuff abit higher, as people know they can get abit of a bargain on nearly-new because of the lower list price paid at the time.