Technical Lap belt assembly

[Ynneg]

Hi,
I have a fiat eco 2011 ive just bought and have no clue how to assemble the rear lap belt. Its not from the roof. Theres an anchored tongue in the boot and a belt with a second tongue and a receiver (currently clipped into the anchored toungue in the boot) there are 2 slilts in the passeamger middle and it has its receiver in place next to those. If that makes sense at all. Thankyou

 

[koalar]

Sounds like the ISOFIX for a child seat ?

Most panda rear are 2 seats at the rear

There are some trim level exception I believed

 

[jrkitching]

There are some trim level exception I believed

Ordering the car as a five seater was an option back in the day, about £50 extra IIRC. These cars will show as having 5 seats on the V5C. Not many took up this option (three in the back is cosy!), so quite rare to find one now.

Again IIRC, the MAMY came with ISOFIX mounts for child seats pre installed in the rear, but wasn't a five seater as standard.

 

[The Panda Nut]

The reels fit in the boot, below the parcel shelf and I think they are bolted direct to the body. The short bucke part bolts to the floor again directly. There are as Koalar says ISO fix mounts for child seats that from memory are separately fixed.

The five belt reel is in the roof and has a double buckle on the end of the strap. One buckle is bigger than the other so you cant get the wrong one in the wrong fixing / socket. There is a black button on the first lower fixing and you first plug the small buckle and fix into this first. This forms the lower fix point of the three point jarness, The larger buckle is then on the end of the long strap and is pulled across the occupants lap and fixed into the third red buttoned buckel release.

 

[Ynneg]

Thank you for your replies. Ive since learnt that it was installed as a 5th lapbelt but insurance was higher as a 5 sear so it registered as a 4 seat so I cant use it. Thanks

 

[The Panda Nut]

Thank you for your replies. Ive since learnt that it was installed as a 5th lapbelt but insurance was higher as a 5 sear so it registered as a 4 seat so I cant use it. Thanks

Ive never heard of the five seater being in a different insurance group. Ours certainly was the same as our 4 seater,

 

[Foxjob]

The reels fit in the boot, below the parcel shelf and I think they are bolted direct to the body. The short bucke part bolts to the floor again directly. There are as Koalar says ISO fix mounts for child seats that from memory are separately fixed.

The five belt reel is in the roof and has a double buckle on the end of the strap. One buckle is bigger than the other so you cant get the wrong one in the wrong fixing / socket. There is a black button on the first lower fixing and you first plug the small buckle and fix into this first. This forms the lower fix point of the three point jarness, The larger buckle is then on the end of the long strap and is pulled across the occupants lap and fixed into the third red buttoned buckel release.

I have 5 seater and have the buckle sticking out , just bought the car . Will it be a problem dropping the split seats and could it be semi removed it needed do you know?

 

[The Panda Nut]

No deosnt affect the seats. The entire belt is unbuckled and goes up into the reel in the roof. Just pull out, buckle the black holder to the small buckle and then its back ready to use.

 

[Foxjob]

Thanks for replying The Panda Nut, it looks like the male buckle with the lap belt is stuck in the female part with the red indicator on the female insert. I can't see anything to press to release the lap belt. The red strip feels solid, no movement at all.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Thanks for replying The Panda Nut, it looks like the male buckle with the lap belt is stuck in the female part with the red indicator on the female insert. I can't see anything to press to release the lap belt. The red strip feels solid, no movement at all.

It will come out, but Im afraid I cant remember exactly how you release it. Its made like this to stop accidental release. Try the downloads hand book library on here and see f you can fin the right one for your model

 

[Foxjob]

Many thanks The Panda Nut, thanks for your reply again. I will keep trying but it's great that I know it will uncouple.

 

[jackwhoo]

Many thanks The Panda Nut, thanks for your reply again. I will keep trying but it's great that I know it will uncouple.

What does other end of belt look like?
Photo?

 

[Foxjob]

Just figured it out about understanding the lap belt. Thanks again for your help about this. Both The Panda Nut and jackwhoo for help and response. Sending a photo for any person like myself with this.

 

[jackwhoo]

Is the other end of lap belt easy to attach /unattach easily in use? IE safe to use?

 

[Foxjob]

Yes, it works as normal and they test it on the cars MOT. I think though it's a child seat. My problem I had was how could I disconnect the belt and drop the split seats and move the the main seat belt into the roof seat, not having this before. I've only bought the car 3 weeks ago. Now know how too thanks.

 

[jackwhoo]

Yes, it works as normal and they test it on the cars MOT. I think though it's a child seat. My problem I had was how could I disconnect the belt and drop the split seats and move the the main seat belt into the roof seat, not having this before. I've only bought the car 3 weeks ago. Now know how too thanks.

If both ends of the belt are like the photo that is not correct.
One end of belt should be normal easy release to stop person being trapped in car

 

[The Panda Nut]

They aren't the same, buckles are different. Each has its own unique buckle socket of different sizes One designed or unbuckle and one designed to stay put. and only be undone for folding the seats. That looks as it should be.

 

[Foxjob]

If both ends of the belt are like the photo that is not correct.
One end of belt should be normal easy release to stop person being trapped in car

No, they are correct the lap belt ends are male when disconnected from female couplers. I originally wanted to know how to disconnect the lap belt from the female connector which normally fitted semi permanent on the seat. I wanted to release that one so can to fold the seats down but I didn't know how to do it. The lap belt can now be replaced as normal for passenger safety after putting back the seat to normal. I'm showing in the photos how I figured out the uncoupling of the lap belt, Not , to fix the lap belt for putting a passenger in the seat belt position. A male gets pushed into the red to release the semi permanent position. Hope that clears that up.