Technical JTD Clutch

[NotAgain]

Hi guys,

I have been reading a few posts from the Past and have found it quite interesting. However, I am still not sure about replacing my Flywheel as well as the Clutch...

Now...I have found a willing chap to fit my clutch for £100 and also found the parts for £170 on tinterweb, can't complain about that. The Flywheel is £350 (ish) and is putting me off...My baby has 125k on the clock but most of that is motorway driving...surely I can forget replacing the Flywheel...£350 is a good night out...or more inevitible parts!

Cheers!

NA

 

[Argonought]

You shouldn't need worry about the flywheel - especially if you mainly drive on motorways.

Why do think it's suspect

 

[Davren]

There should be a specification for acceptable free play in the JTD 115hp dual mass flywheel but it's not shown in the manual and I can't find reference to it anywhere else.

If you do remove the DMF, you need to put a thread locking/sealant on the bolts before refitting them. Some crankshafts bolt holes are drilled all the way through, so without the sealant, engine oil can leak through into the bell housing and on to your new clutch.

Don't know if your £170 clutch includes the concentric slave cylinder, but it's well worth replacing it while the gearbox is out.

 

[NotAgain]

@Argo. Maily due to what I have been reading but from what I can feel it seems ok. I will be leaving it well alone I think.

@Davren. I am looking at full clutch kits so I would assume I am getting all I need but i will check upon purchasing said kit.

Cheers guys, I'll update when the job is complete.



NA

 

[seboni121]

my concentric slave cylinder is getting changed next monday,thank god ive bleed the hydrolics so many times, it helps for about 2 days them the bloody things rough again,so I might change the clutch if it needs to be changed,hopefully all should be fine .

 

[johnson550]

If there was anything wrong with your flywheel you feel the vibration when the engine is under load.

 

[john55]

Dual Mass flywheels are a very common weak point on diesels from almost all manufacturers. Although Stilo ones seem to last longer than most, they will fail in time, definately long before next clutch change.
I would get a low milage flywheel from a scrap yard and fit that, or maybe this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAT-STILO-1-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item414ed62175

it will give you another 50K + miles of trouble free motoring.

 

[B3NNETT]

theres no point changing something that isnt giving you any problems though,
and also changing for second hand aswell, there is no way of knowing if its even in any better condition than the OP's it may be worse, no way of telling.
if it were me i would leave it.

 

[john55]

theres no point changing something that isnt giving you any problems though,
and also changing for second hand aswell, there is no way of knowing if its even in any better condition than the OP's it may be worse, no way of telling.
if it were me i would leave it.

So, you won't be changing your cam belt untill it snaps then.
When the DMF fails (and it will), you need another new clutch to go with the new DMF and a lot of labour to dismantle the car to change it. If you intend to keep the car for a considerable ammount of time, it is definately much better and cheaper in the long run to change the DMF now as the extra labour cost over a clutch change will be minimal, if any.
At 125K miles any DMF is living on borrowed time.

 

[minimad99]

At 125K miles any DMF is living on borrowed time.

Thanks for that cheery info, mines still running the original clutch and DMF at 139,000 miles, no shake or slip in sight and has been remapped for 50,000 of those.
Better put som epennies aside, LOL

 

[B3NNETT]

Changing it for a second hand one is stupid tbh. False economy as your swapping old for old like I said before you cannot be aware of what condition a second hand DMF is in.
I for one will be leaving mine as they are not as bad sa you are making out, you have obviously just listened to a lot of scare stories and made your opinion. My opinion is that as it is giving no trouble and no signs of giving trouble leave it.

Btw cam belt is a completly differnt matter tbh if a DMF fails it's not going to completley wipe out your engine.