iPod touch or Creative Zen?

[arc]

got the zen, it was for my girlfriend and she really wasn't interested in being able to browse the net or install apps (or even watch videos) on it - so she's chuffed with the zen

 

[puntomadboy]

i have the ipod touch and i love it.. would be even better if it were a iphone tho...

 

[custard]

i really need the remote function so i would go for a touch if theres none available