Technical Intercooler Hose Split (sounds like a hoover)

[JFL]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

mine had the same, it was the intercooler air hose

£80 from my fiat dealer to fix

and my car was in its 3rd year waranty, not that it accounts for much

 

[Argonought]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

Looks like this (the thick pipe from turbo)

 

[bozzy]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

Same happened to me couple of weeks ago. £194.00 fityted by the stealers.

 

[richardwp]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

Similar prob recently on my Marea, but the main symptom was also blowing a lot of black smoke because the mixture was too rich, as a result of the split pipe. My split was hard to locate because it was lengthwise along the underside of the rubber pipe. Could only be detected by feeling all round the pipe.https://www.fiatforum.com/marea-technical/120705-marea-weekend-sx-110-jtd-black-smoke.html
Prices quoted above for supply and fitting a new air hose sound a bit steep to me!?

 

[bozzy]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

Prices quoted above for supply and fitting a new air hose sound a bit steep to me!?

Steep, you ain't kidding. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!

 

[michael2208]

Re: Hissing JTD Turbo

Ah £141 later.............

Intercooler pipe, garage had to dismantle front of car to get at it.

I believe the pipe to be solid neutronium, or at the very least platinum encrusted with moondust for the price FIAT charge.

Thanks for all help/tips, great site

 

[adruss85]

I know Josh F-L has had this problem but has anyone had symptoms that make your car sound like a giant hoover?

Pretty sure it the turbo > intercooler hose as it only happens under load and sounds like a whooshy whiney noise. It's def not the turbo (i hope) as the turbo sound is still there aswell.

I'm in wakefield at the moment so do you think it's still safe to drive as i need to get back to chester tomorrow!

Cheers

 

[minimad99]

Re: Intercooler hose split

Adruss85,
Yeah sound like the intercooler pipe, it may have just popped off at one end, have a look down between the battery and the engine and see if anything is flapping about. There are two pipes, one from the turbo to the intercooler, this is the 2-3 inch round pipe which is lower down, then the second from the intercooler back to the engine (this is the harder plastic one higher up).
If you don't know the intercooler is in the wheelarch on passenger side, if you pop out the n/s bumper grill you'll see it, maybe able to check the connections the end of you're not in a position to take the wheel and wheelarch liner off.

Of course one of the rubber pipes may have split which will be harder to tell just by looking, get someone to rev it while you listen under the bonnet.
You MAY be safe to drive if it's a split but if a pipe has come off i'd fix it first.

Hope this helps a bit

 

[adruss85]

Re: Intercooler hose split

checked the pipes and both are still on at the intercooler end, but the bottom one is covered in oil.

No whooshing sound when it's stationary (not audible when sticking head out of the door) but under load it makes a hell of a racket. almost sounds like it's coming from the back.

Any way to get total access to the pipes without taking off wheel and wheelarch?

Thanks

 

[minimad99]

Re: Intercooler hose split

In a word "NO", it's much easier to see what's going on from underneath but obviously that may not be possible for you at the mo.
You say the pipes are ok at intercooler end, do you mean the Turbo end as you haven't taken the wheel off?
When i stripped mine out a few weeks back where the two rubber pipes go in/out the intercooler from wheelarch to engine bay, they rub on the liner and over time i imagine wear right through, mine are boarder line. if you jack up and turn full left lock you might have enough room to look behind wheel to see where i mean.
It's very badly designed and should have used hard plastic tubes rather than the rubber ones.

 

[bozzy]

Re: Intercooler hose split

I know Josh F-L has had this problem but has anyone had symptoms that make your car sound like a giant hoover?Cheers

Yes, mighty whoosh when under load. Might get black smoke also, engine light does not always come on though. I drove mine from manchester to Brum like that as I had no choice but if I were you I would get it to the stealers or at least get the part asap. Split intercooler hose.

 

[adruss85]

Re: Intercooler hose split

minimad,

i've been under the car and had a feel of the pipes where they join the intercooler, i.e. they're not flapping about. where is the turbo? everything seems to be covered by plastic!

 

[minimad99]

Re: Intercooler hose split

Sorry been out for a while,
Yeah the plastic makes it a pain, the turbo is on the right hand side of the engine block (as you look at it), look down between the engine and battery, loow to your left at the engine block, you should see a round silver thing (THE TURBO) with a big black hose going to it, this hose then drops down and disappears to the right, eventually meeting the intercooler.

 

[minimad99]

For info when i priced up the turbo to intercooler pipe which consists of two rubber pipes with a metal pipe in the middle it was approx £45 from stealers.
You can't buy just the rubber ends( even though this is the bit that fails) you have to get the whole thing which is annoying and as the rubber pipes are curved/bent you can't buy aftermarket silicone replacements without knowing the exact size and curve

 

[Oakley28]

JTD - Exhaust Smoking

Hey ...

Car has just been serviced like 2 months ago and ive noticed that when im driving theres black smoke pouring out the exhaust like pretty much constantly. My dad told me it was unburnt fuel or something, but when my bro drove it this morning i watched as he pulled away and all the way down the road there was smoke coming out the exhaust ... any idea what this could be?

Its a 53 Plate 1.9 JTD 115

Cheers

 

[Sparky1483]

re: JTD - Exhaust Smoking

Hey ...

Car has just been serviced like 2 months ago and ive noticed that when im driving theres black smoke pouring out the exhaust like pretty much constantly. My dad told me it was unburnt fuel or something, but when my bro drove it this morning i watched as he pulled away and all the way down the road there was smoke coming out the exhaust ... any idea what this could be?

Its a 53 Plate 1.9 JTD 115

Cheers

diesels do smoke, could be unburnt fuel as your dad said, but depends on how excessive it is?

if there is loads could be an oil seal, but then it would be a bluey colour.

is it really sooty black?

could be the overboost valve, faulty egr valve? or even the MAF on its way?

any loss of power at all?

where is all the diesel owners when you need em

 

[Oakley28]

re: JTD - Exhaust Smoking

it was quite excessive when i saw my brother in it this morning, a big trail of smoke behind him. it is just sooty black. and yeah the car doesnt pull at low revs very well, dunno if thats normal or what ...

 

[Argonought]

re: JTD - Exhaust Smoking

Check for a leak in your intercooler pipework (you should hear the leak).

Might be worth making sure EGR isn't stuck open too (tends to stall)

 

[Oakley28]

re: JTD - Exhaust Smoking

Check for a leak in your intercooler pipework (you should hear the leak).

Might be worth making sure EGR isn't stuck open too (tends to stall)

I take it Fiat would know what that means lol ... how much would this cost me do you think? or you reckon local garage would be the better option?

 

[a1ant]

re: JTD - Exhaust Smoking

My bet is on split intercooler hose if its lots of black smoke. Think its around £56 inc vat or around that.(prob the one that goes from the turbo to the intercooler) Fitting should take no more than half hour. With EGR you tend to get sudden cut in power too, but you havent mentioned that in your post.

Hope that helps,
Alan