General If they are so bad.... why has everyone still got one
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Don't get me wrong 10k miles is nothing. My 2 other cars are at 192k and 250k, I don't expect anything of any significance to fail below 150k given proper maintenance and mechanical sympathy, which by the way doesn't equate to driving like your Gran
The 250k one has just had an engine transplant after it spewed 8 litres of oil out when the oil cooler failed though. It looked like the Exon Valdise had parked on the drive
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Don't get me wrong 10k miles is nothing. My 2 other cars are at 192k and 250k, I don't expect anything of any significance to fail below 150k given proper maintenance and mechanical sympathy, which by the way doesn't equate to driving like your Gran
The 250k one has just had an engine transplant after it spewed 8 litres of oil out when the oil cooler failed though. It looked like the Exon Valdise had parked on the drive
8 litres!? Wow. G class ? Haha that's like 2 fiat 500 engines. Proper Exxon Valdez! And a nice fine from the council for ruining our environment !
Yea the G Class. Biological washing powder and lots of water
Every cloud has a silver lining, it's now got a 606 diesel which is good for 400bhp:slayer:
To be honest, ours has given us little problem since we bought it. Considering we did buy the car from a Fiat dealership 150 miles from where we live without actually seeing or test driving the car until the day we drove to the showroom, we've been more than happy with the overall performance.
Yes, we've had a climate control issue, sorted under warranty, boot micro switch, sorted under warranty and our local Fiat dealership who had absolutely nothing to do with our car until they serviced it last year, have been just fine too. Indeed, I've made up my mind now that I'll let them do the second year service and then we might talk about maximising the PX value on the car and see about changing it.
Would we have another Fiat 500? Probably not. This is our second one and come November this year, we'll have had it two years. When we bought our first POP back in August 2011, hardly anyone where we live seemed to own one, now, the 500 is absolutely everywhere. So I'm kind of now drawn to something which doesn't appear to be everywhere, the Citroen Cactus.
As I've been typing this post, the VED reminder for the TA has just hit the mat. Clearly, it's zero, nothing, zilch, and I suppose that's one nice thing about TA ownership. The car is paid for, so the only expenses are fuel, fill up twice a month and annual servicing, which will clearly vary on price depending on what level of service we have. Decisions, decisions!
Yes, we've had a climate control issue, sorted under warranty, boot micro switch, sorted under warranty and our local Fiat dealership who had absolutely nothing to do with our car until they serviced it last year, have been just fine too. Indeed, I've made up my mind now that I'll let them do the second year service and then we might talk about maximising the PX value on the car and see about changing it.
Would we have another Fiat 500? Probably not. This is our second one and come November this year, we'll have had it two years. When we bought our first POP back in August 2011, hardly anyone where we live seemed to own one, now, the 500 is absolutely everywhere. So I'm kind of now drawn to something which doesn't appear to be everywhere, the Citroen Cactus.
As I've been typing this post, the VED reminder for the TA has just hit the mat. Clearly, it's zero, nothing, zilch, and I suppose that's one nice thing about TA ownership. The car is paid for, so the only expenses are fuel, fill up twice a month and annual servicing, which will clearly vary on price depending on what level of service we have. Decisions, decisions!
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Wrong choice then. The C4 Cactus is the best selling Citroën at the moment. Sales numbers are even higher than those of the FIAT 500, at least in my country.
Glad you pointed out you are not in the UK. The Cactus isn't yet a common enough sight on UK roads, I should know, I spend 5.5 hours a day just driving, so I know which cars are common in the UK and which are not. Trust me, when you're sat behind the wheel of a vehicle for the length of time that I do, you start to notice all sorts of things mostly related to, ahhh, vehicles.
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Regarding the title of this thread:
In my opinion the 500 isn't bad at all. Yes, it has some shortcomings, but which car hasn't?
Before I bought my second 500, I looked at several other small cars, but in the end I fell again for the 500.
In my opinion the 500 isn't bad at all. Yes, it has some shortcomings, but which car hasn't?
Before I bought my second 500, I looked at several other small cars, but in the end I fell again for the 500.
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Yes, but with the current sales numbers that will change within a few years, I think.
I find the C4 Cactus a very original car, but I will never buy it, since it doesn't have a rev counter.
That makes me wonder why it sells so well. Who prefers a clean dash without rev counter?
Maybe this isn't as off-topic as it seems, because it's a nice example of: "Why do people buy cars with known shortcomings?"
Got rid of ours in March. Deffo the last Fiat in our family. I have owned very many Fiat cars over the years, in fact we have never really been without one since our 127 Palio (showing my age). The last three have been an absolute pain to own, always waiting for something else to go wrong. Basically, I have seen a very dramatic decrease in build quality/control since our earlier days of ownership. This is compounded by absolutely shocking standards of workmanship at the Fiat main dealerships we have been unfortunate to encounter. So never again. I have never owned another car as unreliable as these last three. No other car has ever left me stranded at the roadside like these. Anyway, I think you have got my point so I'll stop now.
Yep, I've just broke the 10k miles in 8 months.....................and then nothing happened
Very boring.
...boring here too 43k in 2 years and 4 months with no problems ?
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Yes, but with the current sales numbers that will change within a few years, I think.
I find the C4 Cactus a very original car, but I will never buy it, since it doesn't have a rev counter.
That makes me wonder why it sells so well. Who prefers a clean dash without rev counter?
Maybe this isn't as off-topic as it seems, because it's a nice example of: "Why do people buy cars with known shortcomings?"
I think that is it AGH; I wanted a 500 years before I actually got one and took some time looking them up and reading about the power issue, the door handles falling off (a friend of a friends just fell off apparently), the suspension and the suspect MPG amongst other things.
I looked at a LOT of other cars first, and there were a great many cheaper in the size cat I wanted such as the Adam, Swifts, Fabia, Leon etc. but when sitting in them they just didn't feel like home, or me, or with personality inside as well as out. The SEATs especially seemed like great cars for the price but it just felt so bland inside, like being in the office.
They then brought out the 500S and that was it with no questions asked (I was looking at the street to start with).
It's coming on to almost 2 years old now, and I still turn around and look at it as I'm walking away and go 'damn, that's a good looking car' (more so after a good wash and wax lol). Like a person, if you love them, you look past the faults
It's like an itch, you can scratch it but it never goes away.. I brought mine on retirement and I have no intention of changing it now or in the future.
I brought mine on retirement and I have no intention of changing it now or in the future.
I don't expect anything of any significance to fail below 150k given proper maintenance and mechanical sympathy, which by the way doesn't equate to driving like your Gran
You're hoping.
You have a point and it does transpire into a lot of things bought this day in age. Nothing seems to last that long before requiring repair or replacement, but I suppose it's a way for companies to make money!
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I find the C4 Cactus a very original car, but I will never buy it, since it doesn't have a rev counter.
That makes me wonder why it sells so well. Who prefers a clean dash without rev counter?
I'd buy one and add an OBDII tacho
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