Technical HELP!!! I need an induction kit for my 16v
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Technical HELP!!! I need an induction kit for my 16v
Hi mark, Hope you are pleased with the car mate, Shame you picked the car up today as im going to see Roger over the Bank Holiday, And i could have put a lovely scratch in it for you.... (Na only kiddin)
As to you quirey of air filter......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-57i-Induc...ryZ10382QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
hope this helps...:slayer:
As to you quirey of air filter......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-57i-Induc...ryZ10382QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
hope this helps...:slayer:
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I've lost my original air box 
Swap a slightly used 57i?
Swap a slightly used 57i?
Hi.........If you are talking about "SPB" sold recently by Roger in G Yarmouth I know the car quite well as I owned it 2 owners before him!!
In which case it already has a good cold air flow from the bottom of the bumper to the airbox without all the usual twists and turns. When car was first modified it had a K&N style filter secured into the wing/airbox. If you look on the tipo16v website under "articles" check out the Fastcar one as it will show you what I mean - the pics are of the car as built. Another improvement would be to re-fit the exhaust that came with the car...........its far to noisy for ordinary use but for the odd blast it really made a difference (once I had pieced it back together - a previous owner had cut it about to make a de-cat pipe for a standard system)
If I have got completely the wrong end of the stick and you are talking about a different car then I would still recomend the above airfilter solution - to simply bolt a K&n onto the plenum chamber end with a cold air flow pipe is in my book a waste of time as the underbonnet temperatures for a Sedici are scary- defeating the object.
My son has just replicated this mod to his new 16v with good results. If you want I will try and dig out some pics . CHEERS MIKE
In which case it already has a good cold air flow from the bottom of the bumper to the airbox without all the usual twists and turns. When car was first modified it had a K&N style filter secured into the wing/airbox. If you look on the tipo16v website under "articles" check out the Fastcar one as it will show you what I mean - the pics are of the car as built. Another improvement would be to re-fit the exhaust that came with the car...........its far to noisy for ordinary use but for the odd blast it really made a difference (once I had pieced it back together - a previous owner had cut it about to make a de-cat pipe for a standard system)
If I have got completely the wrong end of the stick and you are talking about a different car then I would still recomend the above airfilter solution - to simply bolt a K&n onto the plenum chamber end with a cold air flow pipe is in my book a waste of time as the underbonnet temperatures for a Sedici are scary- defeating the object.
My son has just replicated this mod to his new 16v with good results. If you want I will try and dig out some pics . CHEERS MIKE
Hi mike,
Yes it is your old sedi he is talking about, I went to see Roger today he's gutted, But he has a 16vt le so he will be ok... Oh and his Fish and Chips are well YUM..
Yes it is your old sedi he is talking about, I went to see Roger today he's gutted, But he has a 16vt le so he will be ok... Oh and his Fish and Chips are well YUM..
SPB not running right
Hi Mike, thanks for the advice but there is still something wrong with the car, ive refitted the exhaust and the centre resornator baffle is rattling around so ill need to change that.
I think I might have a power flow system made to fit but keep the rear resonator.
more importantly, it stutters badly under full load just as you change gear.
Did it do this when you owned it?
I thought it might be where the std airbox/filter wasn't letting enough air in?
Hi Mike, thanks for the advice but there is still something wrong with the car, ive refitted the exhaust and the centre resornator baffle is rattling around so ill need to change that.
I think I might have a power flow system made to fit but keep the rear resonator.
more importantly, it stutters badly under full load just as you change gear.
Did it do this when you owned it?
I thought it might be where the std airbox/filter wasn't letting enough air in?
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Hello Again, To try and answer some of your Q's I will start with the car in my ownership - the problems I had were many and I never solved them all. In a nutshell, the exhaust had been butchered, the underside of the car was showing signs of corrosion, the suspension turretts needed welding repairs, it would run lovely one day in five and after changing every single sensor, stripping the distributer,re-fitting the exhaust, re-making the induction system and goodness knows what else I gave up!!
The car as built was very special with blueprinted engine, Abarth style high lift cams,modified ECU, special induction and exhaust and uprated suspension.I always suspected the ECU but was never able to get to the bottom of it. At the time I had my Black Sedici ( in fact at one point I had 2 others!!)and decided "enough is enough" as I just could'nt throw any more money and time at it.
In the end I traded it in to a specialist trader, bought a Punto Sporting and concentrated on my Black 5 door as the "hobby car", If I hadn't already got this car which is mint - I would have kept the red car. Anyway after 1 or 2 more owners Roger aquired the car and correctly identified the Ecu problem ( which I knew about) and also over fuelling. Also by then other problems had manifested themselves and I believe he had a replacement head fitted - transferring the cams across - loads of other work done rsulting in the car you now have.I understand the owners after me wreched the car!! Roger effectively acquired a complete "dog" from what he told me at the time.
Phewww......You still with me.
Anyway back to your problem - I would as a matter of course check the wiring to every sensor and also the HT leads just incase its a lead breaking down. If nothing obvious then I would try the K&N approach as I described earlier - it cost very little to have the pipe work made up by a local hose supplier. If the car has the scary cams in it logic tells me it will need to breath both in and out with greater efficiency than an ordinary car.
It might also be worth trying v power petrol or similer just incase it is a case of crap fuel (I don't know how many miles you have done). Failing that I guess its a case of working through everything methodically. Can you describe in more details exactly what happens.....there are others on this forum who may be better placed than me to answer. CHEERS MIKE
The car as built was very special with blueprinted engine, Abarth style high lift cams,modified ECU, special induction and exhaust and uprated suspension.I always suspected the ECU but was never able to get to the bottom of it. At the time I had my Black Sedici ( in fact at one point I had 2 others!!)and decided "enough is enough" as I just could'nt throw any more money and time at it.
In the end I traded it in to a specialist trader, bought a Punto Sporting and concentrated on my Black 5 door as the "hobby car", If I hadn't already got this car which is mint - I would have kept the red car. Anyway after 1 or 2 more owners Roger aquired the car and correctly identified the Ecu problem ( which I knew about) and also over fuelling. Also by then other problems had manifested themselves and I believe he had a replacement head fitted - transferring the cams across - loads of other work done rsulting in the car you now have.I understand the owners after me wreched the car!! Roger effectively acquired a complete "dog" from what he told me at the time.
Phewww......You still with me.
Anyway back to your problem - I would as a matter of course check the wiring to every sensor and also the HT leads just incase its a lead breaking down. If nothing obvious then I would try the K&N approach as I described earlier - it cost very little to have the pipe work made up by a local hose supplier. If the car has the scary cams in it logic tells me it will need to breath both in and out with greater efficiency than an ordinary car.
It might also be worth trying v power petrol or similer just incase it is a case of crap fuel (I don't know how many miles you have done). Failing that I guess its a case of working through everything methodically. Can you describe in more details exactly what happens.....there are others on this forum who may be better placed than me to answer. CHEERS MIKE
Its all gone very quiet on this post - any developments?
I think this says it all unfortunately ..... http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/167953.htm
Mmmmmmmm how interesting......................................
What????????? Think you scared him mike!!
I hope your wrong Dazzo.............There should have been nothing there that he didn't know already from Roger...or for that matter from the advert on e/bay or previous postings on the Sporting fiats Website where the problems I had were debated at length whilst I had the car. Also I remember Roger telling me that he put a lot of time and effort into resurecting the car when he acquired it - I believe one or two owners after me. Again the ebay listing itemised a massive amount of work done. OOHHHH welllllll
Cheers MIKE
Cheers MIKE
Its a real shame, is all i can say.... Mark seemed really enthusiastic about the car aswell....
if i had had the cash i wouln't quibble, would love to own a sedi like that..
Its now a year ago since mine was wrote off... boo hoo....
if i had had the cash i wouln't quibble, would love to own a sedi like that..
Its now a year ago since mine was wrote off... boo hoo....
Yes I agree....If I didn't own my black Sedici i would have bought SPB..........In fact I probably never would have sold it in the first place!!!!!!!!
Milkbottle would never forgive me if I replaced her. Plus I reckon I can get her going again good as new for a lot less than £1500!
sumplugs car would be worth the time and far less that 1500.00
Stop it! Tipo's have ears you know! Need a few things doing first like putting up a decent fence around the garden then I can start tinkering
