Going electric

[JCarp16]

Fair play.

Don't get me wrong, the infrastructure can always do with improvement, but its not all as bad as people make out - but again it can depend on where you live as to the availability of destination chargers to make the most of (what is currently) free charging.

Ask me in 6 weeks after I've done my planned Norwich to London to Chepstow and then back to Norwich run and we'll see if I'm still as enthusiastic

Well I'm looking forward to your update. I have noticed that charging points seem to be appearing at a rapid rate - councils have been given a lot of funds to put them in and finally they are starting to spend that money. If they're going to provide incentives to get us all into EVs then it's only right they provide the infrastructure to make them a better choice than an ICE or hybrid vehicle.

 

[puntofan01]

But equally a lot can - so although that is valid for some, it isn't for the majority.

I wouldn't expect any in a village, but where is your nearest town?

My nearest town is about 10 minutes away, and only has very few electric spaces.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

My biggest barrier to moving to an Ev is the cost of the model S, the availability of the model 3 and the weird layout at home which means I couldn’t get an electric supply to the car without doing the above with an extension lead across a shared parking area to my garage which doesn’t have an electric supply..... or dig up Half the parking area.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

My nearest town is about 10 minutes away, and only has very few electric spaces.

Where is said town? I want to check myself if your area is as desolate of EV charing points as you advise

Have you got a petrol station in your village?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

the weird layout at home which means I couldn’t get an electric supply to the car without doing the above with an extension lead across a shared parking area to my garage which doesn’t have an electric supply..... or dig up Half the parking area.

This does seen to be an issue with modern developments with whats still technically off road parking.

It'll be interesting to see how this changes in the next few years with new build estates.

 

[puntofan01]

Where is said town? I want to check myself if your area is as desolate of EV charing points as you advise

Have you got a petrol station in your village?

I'd rather not announce my location on a public forum, if that's ok, lol!

And we used to have a petrol station, but it closed down well over 10 years ago. Maybe even nearer 15 years ago now. I think they're going to build a few houses on the site, you'll be amazed to know.

 

[puntofan01]

A quick Google search reveals that there's the grand sum of 4 charging points in my nearest town: 2 in one of the normal car parks, and 2 at the health centre.

 

[JCarp16]

My biggest barrier to moving to an Ev is the cost of the model S, the availability of the model 3 and the weird layout at home which means I couldn’t get an electric supply to the car without doing the above with an extension lead across a shared parking area to my garage which doesn’t have an electric supply..... or dig up Half the parking area.

You would only consider a Tesla?

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

You would only consider a Tesla?

Doesn't surprise me. They are in a league of their own currently imo.

I'm fondly awaiting the model 3 and may well change my car again at this point.

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

This isn't a short video, but very interesting to watch.

 

[JCarp16]

Doesn't surprise me. They are in a league of their own currently imo.

I'm fondly awaiting the model 3 and may well change my car again at this point.

True. I'm just put off by the fact that it's owned and run by, what appears to be, a Bond villain. He's even got a base in the desert (maybe all the volcanoes in the area were occupied).

 

[JCarp16]

This isn't a short video, but very interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7k3Mzknm8

Fascinating video - thanks for sharing [emoji106]

 

[JCarp16]

This isn't a short video, but very interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7k3Mzknm8

When they refer to range - is that minimum or maximum? If maximum then I still understand the reluctance of some to abandon the security of a car that easily does 400miles or more on a tank to less than half that. On the other hand, once you have one, the cost savings are huge - that bit about the depreciation is a worthy point - I'm not sure I would be brave enough to buy a new ICE in 5 years - hopefully by then the cost and choice of EVs will mean that won't need to be an option.

 

[PuntoHowTo]

You would only consider a Tesla?

At the moment yes because I live in a rural location and have limited access to charging. I would make full use of the Tesla fast chargers especially at places like the euro tunnel and on the motorways. Also I quite like a bit of luxury which Tesla provides especially the Model S

The other cars do the job but don’t have the Tesla range or battery technology and don’t have the same fast charging capability.

Tesla super charger is capable of 120Kw/h charging. (With the technology being capable to 145Kw/h but is limited by what the battery can take)

The current biggest battery is 100KW so you can easily do the maths and work out just how quickly it takes for a full charge from a super charger

 

[JCarp16]

At the moment yes because I live in a rural location and have limited access to charging. I would make full use of the Tesla fast chargers especially at places like the euro tunnel and on the motorways. Also I quite like a bit of luxury which Tesla provides especially the Model S

The other cars do the job but don’t have the Tesla range or battery technology and don’t have the same fast charging capability.

Tesla super charger is capable of 120Kw/h charging. (With the technology being capable to 145Kw/h but is limited by what the battery can take)

The current biggest battery is 100KW so you can easily do the maths and work out just how quickly it takes for a full charge from a super charger

I guess that they are the real deal when it comes to EVs - if what they claim about their new battery technology turns out to be accurate then it's a real game changer.
As for other makers - I rather like the i3 - mainly because of its city-car like stance/packaging. I'd like to see Tesla make a much smaller car - but they may want to remain as a more premium/luxury marque as the market becomes increasingly crowded.

 

[puntofan01]

That video was interesting. I like the idea of power stations becoming a thing of the past, as I do hope that renewable energy takes off. I thought what it said about ICE cars becoming socially unacceptable in about 10 years was rather harsh though: after all, some people can only afford to buy old cars.

 

[StevenRB45]

I enjoyed the "1st electric airliner" caption on the graph, interesting but haven't looked up what his company does...I assume they've bet a lot of money on their version of the future.

Actually nevermind, they install chargers...it zoomed in on the graph at the end and it mentioned they install chargers.

Quite a long advert then..

 

[JCarp16]

I enjoyed the "1st electric airliner" caption on the graph, interesting but haven't looked up what his company does...I assume they've bet a lot of money on their version of the future.

Actually nevermind, they install chargers...it zoomed in on the graph at the end and it mentioned they install chargers.

Quite a long advert then..

He was very dismissive of hydrogen. Someone probably needs to talk to the Koreans and Japanese about that.

 

[StevenRB45]

Well if I was a cynic...I would say that if people drag their feet about switching from ice to full electric or hydrogen was a viable alternative he stands to lose a **** tonne of money.

Not based on any research just reading between the lines of jabs on his road map to the future..the fact that one of the things on it was "my company installing a charging point every hour.." did rather label it as a salesmans fantasy piece even if some of his points were valid.

 

[andydiver]

Very many of his points are valid and it will take many companies betting on a similar outcome for this to work. Don't blame him for that. Hydrogen has been dead in the water for me since it was first muted and he puts the reasons very well.
Will likely buy electric if not the next car, then the one after.