General gearbox repair?

[bredsticz]

Trying to decide what to do with my gearbox. It feels really nice and smooth but always pops out of 2nd gear. It is engaging properly via the linkage so definately the box at fault.
How easy would it be to dismantle and repair the box myself?
or anywhere in the manchester area do it cheap enough rather than replace the box for another 2nd hand one?

 

[fingers99]

Problem will be that there seems to be no English language documentation on the box. How's your Polish?

Somewhere on the forum there's a sort of photo essay of a strip and rebuild of a Cinq box, a search should find.

You'll probably find a gearbox reconditioner in yellow pages.

 

[bredsticz]

That sounds like fun. im sure google translate would come in handy.
I presumed reconditioners in yellow pages would end up costing alot more than a replacement box though

 

[fingers99]

Sure -- but not more expensive than a replacement new box!

If after a replacement (s/h) 5 speed, try and get a Cinq or Sei Sporting box. Just a hunch, but I recon they were built on a different (probably Polish) production line. Certainly they seem to suffer fewer issues than the Punto (Italian built?) boxes.

 

[Ziggy122]

Just for reference,
I rung a local recon' i've used before and tbh the box was sweet as a nut for life!

They wanted £240 + VAT
Then it went to £240 Inc Vat
Down to £220 inc VAT

Thats for a 5speed punto box

Which is in a Panda, punto so plenty of them, and quiet cheap

Ziggy

 

[s and b]

why not strip the box down yourself and replace the bearings
no tools other than a socket set and some circlip pliers are required
wait till you see the selector forks covered in plastic

 

[fingers99]

If it's smooth and jumps out of second, isn't it more likely to be the synchromesh than the bearings? Or maybe even the selectors?

 

[bredsticz]

I wansn't sure what it would be. I just know its fully engaged on the box via the linkage.
Will stay in gear if I hold it there. I don't mind pulling it apart myself to fix, its just knowing what's gone, I'm unfamiliar with the internals of a box.

 

[bredsticz]

most people have said the synchro about gears popping out. Presuming it would need replacing for 2nd gear. but can't even find where you'd buy the parts

 

[fingers99]

Likely sources are FIAT or Big Mick at eurocarcare in Derby. You could try Unto.pl.

 

[flying clutchman]

I wouldn't bother trying to repair it yourself. Punto boxes are quite easy to take apart, but unless it's bearings you are changing it's not worth the hassle. Any decent recon gearbox firm should be able to supply ata reasonable price and should fit it free or very cheap.