is a ford 998cc zetec turbo engine fitted in a 2017 b max a fiat engine?
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No, EcoBoost is Ford tech. Why would you think it was Fiat?
Yes the
' ecoburst' is FORD
The Ka uses FIAT..
' ecoburst' is FORD
The Ka uses FIAT..
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i thought if they use fiat in a ka they might use it in others, i know nothing of fords
I guess they only use Fiat in the Ka because the Ka is basically a Panda/500, no need to re-engineer engine mounts etc, just body and interior.
The ecoburst initially feels like a good engine. Had a few now with AA driving school, but now no more.
Difficult to drive smoothly, too eager, becomes tiresome.
I've had no issues with engine reliability, but not taken any above around 14k miles before change. No oil used, despite the use by learners, holding revs to the limiter before changing gear, etc.
Internet has lots of stories of expensive repairs at higher mileages. Especially avoid any that have been driving school cars.
Difficult to drive smoothly, too eager, becomes tiresome.
I've had no issues with engine reliability, but not taken any above around 14k miles before change. No oil used, despite the use by learners, holding revs to the limiter before changing gear, etc.
Internet has lots of stories of expensive repairs at higher mileages. Especially avoid any that have been driving school cars.
They even reused blue and me in the KA, called it “ford audio” still horribly unreliable
Fiat haven’t made a 1 litre engine for a long time let alone bolted a turbo to one, well that said there is supposedly a new 3 cylinder 1 litre coming but so far not in the U.K. and not in a ford.
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this one has only done 19k my daughter got it because she reckons her doblo is too big for her needs now as her youngest has out grown needing a pram.
tried to get her to have a 500l but she didn't like them.
This uses the new type aircon gas and kwikfit reckon their R1234yf machine wont do it as it needs a special adaptor for this car. main dealer want £300:bang:
tried to get her to have a 500l but she didn't like them.
This uses the new type aircon gas and kwikfit reckon their R1234yf machine wont do it as it needs a special adaptor for this car. main dealer want £300:bang:
£80 at Halfords auto centres.
R1234yf gas is much more expensive.
R1234yf gas is much more expensive.
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My daughter has a Focus EcoBoost 125bhp. It mostly does commuting about 20 miles each way mix of town and duals. She says it needs the right gear to accelerate comfortably. There's no need to thrash it but not revving enough actually uses more fuel than letting it spin. But she's very happy with it.
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plus the £39 pre inspection fee. that they kept anyway even though they told my daughter they could not do it because the compressor and fan would not kick in. said they plugged it into diagnostics but couldn't find the fault. they never gave her this in writing though just a receipt for the money
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I've got the 1.5 Ecoboost in my Focus estate, really good engine, nice smooth delivery, I've got the auto box. When I was going round the dealers some tried to convince me the 1.0 version was OK, I didn't even bother test driving one, I just can't see how a tiny ickle engine like that would last very long lugging about a big beast like the Focus estate
Old thread now..
My nieces 1l ecoburst had the standard failure.. cambelt debris choked the oil pickup..end of the car
1500cc is it ford's own??
Seems an odd capacity..
I know my sons old tdci focus was a PSA motor..
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My nieces 1l ecoburst had the standard failure.. cambelt debris choked the oil pickup..end of the car
1500cc is it ford's own??
Seems an odd capacity..
I know my sons old tdci focus was a PSA motor..
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Ah yes, this is indeed an old thread The 1.5 is a Ford ecoboost petrol, it is in the Focus, Fiesta, Puma amongst others, in the Fiesta and Puma it is the ST with 200 bhp.
In the Focus it was either a 150 or 182 bhp.
Saying all that.....the Focus now does not come with the 1.5, they've dropped it for a 1.0 ecoboost hybrid that pushes 155 bhp.
I believe the ecoboosts have a wet belt cambelt system and costs an absolute fortune to change, even the tools to do the job are mega expensive as you need to buy a torque multiplier
All I know is I'm not gonna keep this for that long, I've been reading on the Ford forums that a load of people are offloading their ecoboosts well before the wet belts need changing.
The 1.0 ecoboost is a cracking little motor. Lots of power, will take being thrashed regularly and not use any oil, whilst still giving adequate economy.
All good whilst it was someone else's motor. Wouldn't want to own an old one. It is even better in the Focus, as the extra weight calms the hyper motor nicely. Ford are selling lots now, but I feel this might suddenly bite them if older ones start giving lots of expensive problems. Perhaps they're hoping ICE cars will be disappearing by then.
All good whilst it was someone else's motor. Wouldn't want to own an old one. It is even better in the Focus, as the extra weight calms the hyper motor nicely. Ford are selling lots now, but I feel this might suddenly bite them if older ones start giving lots of expensive problems. Perhaps they're hoping ICE cars will be disappearing by then.
Ah those stupid wet belts all the complexity and cost of a chain but with change intervals more like belts
The 1.5 is a Ford ecoboost petrol, it is in the Focus, Fiesta, Puma amongst others, in the Fiesta and Puma it is the ST with 200 bhp.
In the Focus it was either a 150 or 182 bhp.
Saying all that.....the Focus now does not come with the 1.5, they've dropped it for a 1.0 ecoboost hybrid that pushes 155 bhp.
I believe the ecoboosts have a wet belt cambelt system and costs an absolute fortune to change, even the tools to do the job are mega expensive as you need to buy a torque multiplier
All I know is I'm not gonna keep this for that long, I've been reading on the Ford forums that a load of people are offloading their ecoboosts well before the wet belts need changing.
I believe a fair few people have fitted chain conversions on to them
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My local vehicle hire company has had two (2 count em) new Transits with broken wet cam belts since last September. They had the obvious valve damage but also oil starvation due to belt fragments clogging things up. Both engines totally scrapped.
They believe the engine has to come out to change the cam belt so as these vehicles age, are even less likely to get serviced one time.
Honda's big problem with cam chains were down to poor lubrication. It got so bad, they went to a geared cam drive on the Vee Four. It's likely the Ford wet belts dont have a direct oil feed but just get splashed with oil sloshing around the engine. Conversion to cam chain will need an oil supply to keep the chain swimming in lovely lubes.
They believe the engine has to come out to change the cam belt so as these vehicles age, are even less likely to get serviced one time.
Honda's big problem with cam chains were down to poor lubrication. It got so bad, they went to a geared cam drive on the Vee Four. It's likely the Ford wet belts dont have a direct oil feed but just get splashed with oil sloshing around the engine. Conversion to cam chain will need an oil supply to keep the chain swimming in lovely lubes.
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Its not that old.. nobody has mentioned the Pinto
Was that their last development..?
Im thinking of the :
CVH ( mazda )
2.5 (volvo)
Im not sure the 'endure.a.tech' counts
The CVH was introduced with the Mk3 Escort, 1980? I thought that was a bit early for Mazda involvement, and given the problems with the CVH I'd expect it to be more Ford than Mazda.Its not that old.. nobody has mentioned the Pinto
Was that their last development..?
Im thinking of the :
CVH ( mazda )
2.5 (volvo)
Im not sure the 'endure.a.tech' counts
The Volvo 2.5, 5cyl, was a joint development with Renault, basically Renault's 4cyl with an extra one tacked on. Lots of interchangeable parts. But typically Volvo, they improved it.
