Gerriatrick
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Hi there, can find eps motor for 2011 panda and wondered if pantos steering column and motor be compatible
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Technical Fiat panda EPS motor
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Technical Fiat panda EPS motor
Power steering column are programed specifically to the car, wheel base, weight and so on, I have never tried so can't be 100% but I doubt a Punto would work
Very rare you need any parts
EPS electric power steering faults | FIAT Panda (Mk3)
First don't panic, the vast majority of power steering faults are normally simple and cheap fixes especially if it starts failing mainly in your winter months But unfortunately nobody can say change this or do that and it fix it. A lot of different faults will cause the same symptoms or the...
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But worst case would be a replacement torque sensor,
If you just need the motor, your looking for, look on the label, any with the same part number should fit, the delphi system was fitted to lots of different vehicles, never known a motor fail yet
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Gerriatrick
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Hi there, sorry about grammar in last post at least ye got the jist. So months later...second hand part sent from Uk doesn't fit (although promised would)so sent whole unit to ECU n unrepairable. Help. Can't find part here in Ireland. Can't afford another car.As I asked before would a Punto have same eps motor and would it fit ?
So
What panda is it?
Bound to be differences over @10 years of production and at least 3 engine flavours
Pretty sure some of Europe didn't even get PAS it was all manual like the cinq and old panda
Have you researched the actual units?
Maybe it's nearer to the Seicento than the panda?
Gerriatrick
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Hi, Thanks for your reply. It's a 2011 fiat panda hatchback, the eps motor has failed and cannot be repaired. I am having alot of trouble getting second hand parts in Ireland
How was the faulty motor dignosed?
It would be very unusual for the motor in the ESP to fail.
Is it randomly going heavy
You need the correct ESP for the model of car,
Fiat models that have 2 or 4 door versions, you can not even swap a 2 door EPS into a 4 door one
It would be very unusual for the motor in the ESP to fail.
Is it randomly going heavy
You need the correct ESP for the model of car,
Fiat models that have 2 or 4 door versions, you can not even swap a 2 door EPS into a 4 door one
Gerriatrick
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Hi I sent to you Uk and tested by ECU, said software and hardware failure n unrepairable
Whoops I missed post 3
So the EPS as whole is faulty, not the electric motor inside
What were the original symptoms
Gerriatrick
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I think so, power steering went intermittently
When working the steering didn't feel different feel different between turn left or right
It didn't fail only on full lock in one direction
There wasn't any shacking of the steering wheel when the car is stationary
It was that the steering went heavy intermittently possibly with the red light coming on, is this correct?
Gerriatrick
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Exactly all of above
Dam
software and hardware failure sound like poo to me, a firm that specialises in this type of repair should be able to reload any firmware it likes and replace any faulty or broken parts. The column is modular.
It's almost certain there wasn't anything wrong originally with the EPS
The EPS switches off randomly to save battery when an issue is detected with its supply
Or when the torque sensor can not make sense of the values because it's reference voltages are fluctuating
They can be tricky to fix as there isn't one fix all
Battery (most common, and can test fine)
Earth lead going to the top of the battery earth terminal
Corrosion on the fuse contacts (unlikely)
Altinator
Altinator wiring
Torque sensor
And so on
I have never seen or heard of these later delphi units being beyond economical repair (BER)
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Gerriatrick
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Thanks very much most helpful , mechanic gonna check, is the motor just calibrated to a fiat panda and not specific
There's at least 3 different firmware versions for the panda 169
1.1 and 1.2
1.1 and 1.2 with ASR
100HP
Only the correct column will work as far as I know, I haven't tried fitting a wrong column myself
The only calibration a general mechanic will be able to preform is the straight ahead position, they will not be able to change the firmware.
Punto Grande (both types)
2012 onwards
500
All use a completely different colmns
