Technical Fiat ducato 2.8i jtd not starting after winter

[Yorkysteve]

Hi I have a 2001 fiat ducato 2.8i jtd motorhome 2001 tried to start it after winter but engine turned over but not firing. I changed fuel filter but no fuel coming out of pipe. I checked the tank float pipes and no fuel coming from there when engine turns over and cannot locate fuel pump. It worked perfectly before winter but was left with a full tank of deisel over winter any ideas anyone. Thank you

 

[Yorkysteve]

Can anyone suggest a mechanic who can come and disable the immobiliser for me please as there is nothing more I can do myself I'm in the selby york area thank you all. Steve

 

[Yorkysteve]

Can anyone suggest a mechanic who can come and disable the immobiliser for me please as there is nothing more I can do myself I'm in the selby york area thank you all. Steve

 

[Communicator]

Just followed wires to immobiliser and looked to see if I can remove the circuit bord or disarm it but the is an ijector pipe in front of it and awkward to get at can I just disconnect the plug would that work

Sorry, not that simple. The immobiliser is a piece of electronics mounted on the pump. It controls the supply the "stop" solenoid on the pump. Solenoid must be energised for vehicle to run. With protective shield removed from pump, it is then possible to reconfigure wires so that solenoid is supplied directly from ignition switch.

 

[Yorkysteve]

Do you know anyone who can do it for me please

 

[bugsymike]

Do you know anyone who can do it for me please

As @Communicator says, it's a pain to access , but once done as advised, then fuel solenoid can be activated regardless of immobiliser chip etc.

 

[Yorkysteve]

Thank you for that but I'm not confidant or skilled enough to do it do you know who can please thank you

 

[bugsymike]

Thank you for that but I'm not confidant or skilled enough to do it do you know who can please thank you

Sorry I don't know anyone local to you.

 

[jackwhoo]

Just followed wires to immobiliser and looked to see if I can remove the circuit bord or disarm it but the is an ijector pipe in front of it and awkward to get at can I just disconnect the plug would that work

No

I think @Communicator posted a link to thread how to remove the part of imobiliser that is bolted to the pump earlier in this thread.
Find it read it understand it...learn from someone having gone through what you are going through and posting the way they got over it.

 

[jackwhoo]

Even if you are not up to doing the removal if you know how and can print the how to you can give it to a mechanic so they know what is required / which tools before hand

 

[Yorkysteve]

Thank you for that but I don't feel confident about doing it so would rather pay someone to do it and get it sorted once and for all so if anyone knows a mechanic in the selby/york area I would be grateful

 

[jackwhoo]

You are more likely to find someone willing if you print the how to and give it to them.

 

[Yorkysteve]

Ok thank you

 

[Yorkysteve]

Could someone please resend link for disabling immobiliser I cannot find the one fromm communicator. Thank You

 

[Communicator]

Could someone please resend link for disabling immobiliser I cannot find the one fromm communicator. Thank You

See post #55 in this thread.

 

[Yorkysteve]

Thank you

 

[Yorkysteve]

Hi everyone just messaging to thank everyone who replied to my message for all of their ideas, time and help. The van is now fixed after 2 mechanics and £180 later the last one found out it was the fuel cut off reset button which made me feel silly but worth it for it to be fixed. Once again thank you all for your help

 

[jackwhoo]

Wow that's fantastic news.

Thank you so much for letting us know.

Where is the fuel cut off switch? What does it look like?
Photo when you get chance would be helpful.

Did you have to get immobilser removed or is it all ok now?

Well done you for sticking with it and telling us.

Would you recommend any mechanics near you?
Best wishes
Jack

 

[Communicator]

I too am pleased at the successful resolution, but like @jackwhoo I am curious as to the fuel cut off switch. My x244 2.8jtd in common with most later models has an inertia switch, which is intended to interupt the supply to the electric pump in the fuel tank. @Yorkysteve 's 2.8idTD does not have an electric lift pump. Is the fuel cut off "switch" included in the stop solenoid supply?

Attached is picture of fuel cut off inertia switch on my 2.8jtd, which is mounted at the rear of the engine bay.

 

[bugsymike]

Hi everyone just messaging to thank everyone who replied to my message for all of their ideas, time and help. The van is now fixed after 2 mechanics and £180 later the last one found out it was the fuel cut off reset button which made me feel silly but worth it for it to be fixed. Once again thank you all for your help

Glad it is running now, but it seems strange that vehicle drove in to be left for the Winter and then wouldn't restart because of an inertia device.
I found a uTube video which showed the conditions to activate an inertia/cut off switch under normal conditions, so unless you parked it at the bottom of a cliff, it shouldn't activate.
Unless of course you mean a manually activated aftermarket fuel shut device that you operated before parking for the Winter that you forgot to turn on again?

 

[jackwhoo]

Glad it is running now, but it seems strange that vehicle drove in to be left for the Winter and then wouldn't restart because of an inertia device.
I found a uTube video which showed the conditions to activate an inertia/cut off switch under normal conditions, so unless you parked it at the bottom of a cliff, it shouldn't activate.
Unless of course you mean a manually activated aftermarket fuel shut device that you operated before parking for the Winter that you forgot to turn on again?

Or accidental knock direct to the inertia cut off switch. Ford put an inertia switch in the centre of the spare wheel well of a popular model - leading to 1000s of no starts following a flat tyre. Removing the spare wheel and replacing with the flat resulted in tripping the switch