Technical Electrics gone mad

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Technical Electrics gone mad

Itineoman

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Hello all - this is my first post on this forum - I've been here a few times in the past as a guest to find answers to various technical troubles with my van. This is the first time I've needed to register and post.
I have an A-Class motorhome based on a Ducato chassis. I've had it since new in 2009. Being what it is I know that a lot of the wiring has been modified from standard. The van gets a lot of use in the summer but is mostly left standing for long periods outside of then.


About three weeks ago the central locking started locking/unlocking all on its own at random times - maybe ten times in one minute and intermittently once or twice an hour afterwards. No flashers happening which does when used with the fob. Did all the usual common-sense diagnostic things like moving the fob out of range, looking at the wiring for obvious shorts etc.
Then a few days ago I switched on the ignition, and the wipers and screenwash came on as well. Stopped when I switched off but came on again once I turned the key.
Then the problem disappeared the next day.
Today it took another turn - three times the exact same thing happened when I switched on - Right hand indicator comes on along with main beam for five seconds or so. Then wipers/water as before.
I hear two beeps from the engine compartment that were never there before when I turn the key.
Now it's stopped happening but expect it will return soon.
My question is about the type of problem this is likely to be - is it likely to be a wiring thing i.e. a short somewhere, a CAN bus thing or something else?




I'm wondering whether there is an underlying problem that is causing both issues? Typing this I can see that it is going to be a job for the auto electrician but would be curious about others' experience.
 
Hi I would think someone with diag software that can read your ecus will be your first action the body Computor controls all your functions that are misbehaving ,being a camper van does hab door work off central locking? Is the vehicle battery fully charged ?i know of software trouble relate to wiper function but really get full diag check on ecus first
 
Hi I would think someone with diag software that can read your ecus will be your first action the body Computor controls all your functions that are misbehaving ,being a camper van does hab door work off central locking? Is the vehicle battery fully charged ?i know of software trouble relate to wiper function but really get full diag check on ecus first


Thanks for that - Yes the hab door and driver's doors both work off central locking. And yes the battery is fully charged. I noticed just now that the messages F30 and F60 appear on the dash when the door is locking/unlocking followed by a F120. I can't find the meanings of these anywhere in the fiat manuals - any idea what they mean?
Before giving in and taking it to the experts I've done the following layman diagnostics. I'm not sure whether I have two problems or one thing causing both. I suspect a bad earth somewhere from being left standing over the damp winter months.


I took a jump lead and earthed the battery negative terminal to the chassis which made no difference.
I cleaned all visible earth points in the engine bay and tested with a multimeter that they are at 0v.
I took the van for a run for half an hour and the problem briefly disappeared but came back again after a few minutes.


Any suggestions appreciated.
 
F30 60 90 120 are follow me home lights with ignition off pull back on main beam stalk allows front lights to stay on for the seconds you select
 
F30 60 90 120 are follow me home lights with ignition off pull back on main beam stalk allows front lights to stay on for the seconds you select
Thanks - as it's happening when the CL is spontaneously locking it suggests to me that the two problems are related. I've booked it into the Auto Electrician on Wednesday. I'll put up a post here on how I get on.
Thanks for the replies so far.
 
I had this with my van and I feared the worse, ie new £body computer. I took it to the local garage who put the computer on it. It said either open or short to ground on a couple of relays/ fuses (can't remember) which were on the fuse board drivers side. they took it out and cleaned all the connections and it has been fine for the last couple of months. Or though I do sometimes think I can hear the drivers side door solenoid clicking it might be my imagination.
 
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Thanks for asking:). So an update as of this morning. My local Indy garage has identified the BCU as the problem. An attempt to clean the corrosion resulted in the unit packing up altogether so it looks like a new replacement from the main dealer is the only option. An expensive job I'm afraid.
 
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Might get away with just replacing the fuse board. It's on order and fingers crossed will be enough. Entire unit costs €700 plus vat��
 
Afaik you can copy just the 95160 eeprom memory from the old one into a second hand one no need to spend 700 quid.
 
Corcai the power in your hands I’m not patronising i want to know what I need to do where to get the software for your option please it’s interesting and I’m interested
 
In the meantime I checked, eeprom is not enough you need to swap or clone the mcu too. If bsi is toast ma be able to buy keys with scrap bsi, virginise the ecu, then after self programming recode injectors and pump.

Corcai the power in your hands I’m not patronising i want to know what I need to do where to get the software for your option please it’s interesting and I’m interested

If it was just the eeprom as in some fiat bsi units you could simply desolder the eeprom from the old one and solder it into the new one - invest in a hot air rework station. Or read/write with x-prog/upa-usb/beeprog/digiprog/willem/seepro etc.
 
A much belated update on this.
I took the van to the local indy who took out the fuse board and cleaned it with switch cleaner. The electrics duly died and it being a motorhome couldn't be moved to a specialist so the diagnosis took place at a slow pace at the indy. The BCU and fuse box needed replacement and a long time was spent isolating the fault before the new unit could be fitted and coded.
It turned out to be a bad earth at the fuseboard that caused the BCU to fail. An expensive experience. :(:(
Thanks for all the helpful replies and suggestions earlier in the year.
 
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