Technical Drum self adjuster bad?
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Man, you are putting a lot of effort into this, thanks a bunch for that and for the kind compliments for my English.
Regarding the part, I have already found it a new, OEM part, it's about 40€ per piece.
By the time I contact the seller, make the deal, pay for the necessary shipping fees, the time it takes to arrive... it's just better to buy it locally.
The only thing is that I don't want to spend that amount of money on that small part, for those 80€ I can buy two used hubs with the discs, calipers, and abs sensors from the HGT model...
Anyways, I will search tomorrow again through scrap yards, hopefully, I will find it
Regarding the part, I have already found it a new, OEM part, it's about 40€ per piece.
By the time I contact the seller, make the deal, pay for the necessary shipping fees, the time it takes to arrive... it's just better to buy it locally.
The only thing is that I don't want to spend that amount of money on that small part, for those 80€ I can buy two used hubs with the discs, calipers, and abs sensors from the HGT model...
Anyways, I will search tomorrow again through scrap yards, hopefully, I will find it
You are welcome , we need to look after each other , espicially during cv19 crisis.
If you can't find good used at scrap yard. Just spend the 80 euros. You have already bought new drums and shoes.
The drum brakes on your car are more than good enough. Trying to fit disc setup will end up costing you a lot more than you think and will gain you nothing.
If you can't find good used at scrap yard. Just spend the 80 euros. You have already bought new drums and shoes.
The drum brakes on your car are more than good enough. Trying to fit disc setup will end up costing you a lot more than you think and will gain you nothing.
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The adjusters are hard to find. You might find you can use the adjuster springs from other fiats to repair your existing adjusters.
I was wondering also if you can manually adjust the adjusters and then glue/loctite the threads. On a punto with ABS you hardly use the rear brakes. My original rear shoes were good for 250,000km
I was wondering also if you can manually adjust the adjusters and then glue/loctite the threads. On a punto with ABS you hardly use the rear brakes. My original rear shoes were good for 250,000km
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Great thread on drum brakes guys. A lot of really useful information.
All right, all the wrenching has been done.
I actually found the adjuster using the part number and found it locally for less than 30€ new. Seems that Toyota Yaris mk2 uses same adjusters or similar ones, anyways those fit and work as a glove.
The reason why the handbrake lever (the one shown in the pictures) was off the place was because of some back spring behind the plate popped out of place and didn't hold like it supposed to.
Everything is in place now, tested it for a few kilometres, everything seems fine, pedal is still bit stiff but it's matter of habit now I think.
I will update again after some driving and will see will I encounter the same problem
Thanks again for all of your help (especially to you Jack) and I hope this thread or post help someone who is in need of replacing rear brakes.
Stay safe, everyone.
Ps. And here is a bonus picture of the car and the bag from adjusters
I actually found the adjuster using the part number and found it locally for less than 30€ new. Seems that Toyota Yaris mk2 uses same adjusters or similar ones, anyways those fit and work as a glove.
The reason why the handbrake lever (the one shown in the pictures) was off the place was because of some back spring behind the plate popped out of place and didn't hold like it supposed to.
Everything is in place now, tested it for a few kilometres, everything seems fine, pedal is still bit stiff but it's matter of habit now I think.
I will update again after some driving and will see will I encounter the same problem
Thanks again for all of your help (especially to you Jack) and I hope this thread or post help someone who is in need of replacing rear brakes.
Stay safe, everyone.
Ps. And here is a bonus picture of the car and the bag from adjusters
Ah that's why I couldn't see the end of the return spring poking through a hole in the brake shoe, that was driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't sure you had the correct shoes but needed you too fix adjusters first before going any further with fix.
Your brake pedal will go down much less far before brakes work now because rear brakes adjusting correctly.
You can now teach you friends how to fix their drum brakes (-:
Do a kind thing for a stranger sometime , you will get a kick out of it as we have helping you.
Nice looking car (-:
Good work Jack, well done for sticking in there. Not wanting to but in & tell anyone what to do, but make good use of free time to get to know your braking system, even if everything is working well, you could take the drums off & give a good clean. Check things out & see how it works, I mean when you become experts, you can save a small fortune by servicing & changing your brakes. Keep lubricating those brake cables. 
Tip, if you have to change cables & they are inner & outer type, before fitting hang them up & pour oil down them, this takes a wee while but can extend the life a bit longer. Graphite spray works well I've found.
Tip, if you have to change cables & they are inner & outer type, before fitting hang them up & pour oil down them, this takes a wee while but can extend the life a bit longer. Graphite spray works well I've found.Thanks JimboyGood work Jack, well done for sticking in there. Not wanting to but in & tell anyone what to do, but make good use of free time to get to know your braking system, even if everything is working well, you could take the drums off & give a good clean. Check things out & see how it works, I mean when you become experts, you can save a small fortune by servicing & changing your brakes. Keep lubricating those brake cables.
You are welcome to but in anytime you like with me , but be gentle.
No one knows everything , be very suspicious of anyone who claims or pretends to know everything.
Anyone can make a mistake.
So so easy to slip up trying to write down a way for someone else to do something.
Spot on Jack, as they say it's only easy if you know the answer. What I like about this forum are the car owners who are not mechanics but know their way around a car & give advise in real time & what to expect & tips that help. Mechanics are very knowledgeable & give excellent information, but there are times actually getting the situation spelled out from a novice point of view works, if you know what I mean.
Spot on Jack, as they say it's only easy if you know the answer. What I like about this forum are the car owners who are not mechanics but know their way around a car & give advise in real time & what to expect & tips that help. Mechanics are very knowledgeable & give excellent information, but there are times actually getting the situation spelled out from a novice point of view works, if you know what I mean.
I spend a lot of time trying to explain what I have done to a car and why in a way the owner understands, sometimes the owner is even interested !
I find it helps me be much more thoughtful about what I am doing(-:
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To prove that repair was successful, you should take the extra brake test (braking force and differences Left/Right - just like they check it during "MOT") and check the temperatures (if drums are heating up equally).
Self-adjusters are the 2nd most neglected/abused part of the system (number one is brake fluid).
People just swap drums and shoes, handbrake linkages, maybe cylinders if needed. That's it.
Old, dirty, rusty, incomplete adjusters are installed back. Problems guaranteed.
I've "been there, done that" too in the past, so chill out.
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Check other models too, forums and Guides. For example Grande Punto has the same system: https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-guides/235078-rear-drum-strip-clean.html?p=4532867
Watch out for counterfeit, cheap replacement or used self-adjusters (without "kanthal" bi-metallic strip or faulty one).
Self-adjusters are the 2nd most neglected/abused part of the system (number one is brake fluid).
People just swap drums and shoes, handbrake linkages, maybe cylinders if needed. That's it.
Old, dirty, rusty, incomplete adjusters are installed back. Problems guaranteed.
I've "been there, done that" too in the past, so chill out.
PS
Check other models too, forums and Guides. For example Grande Punto has the same system: https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-guides/235078-rear-drum-strip-clean.html?p=4532867
Watch out for counterfeit, cheap replacement or used self-adjusters (without "kanthal" bi-metallic strip or faulty one).
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