Do you use a super fuel?

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Do you use a super fuel?

in those days the ignition advance could be manually set to suit the fuel, usually as easily as adjusting the angle that the dizzy sits at. at your age i'm sure you will remember doing that to your older (pre93) cars? if you stuck 5 star fuel in an older car there was no change unless you also adjusted the dizzy angle. if you then went back to 4 star is didnt run as well and you had to knock the dizzy back. many people had 2 marks on the dizzy so they could easily adjust for each fuel in less than a minute. that is what i did. during the week you use 4 star to save cash, then at the weekend you go racing other boyracers on 5 star. :D

those were the days, you could "remap" your own car for free. bloody ecu's and fuel injection came along and ruined my world.


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.....You're old.

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in exactly the same way, your swift cant possibly run faster on super unleaded, yet you believe it has because a tv advert suggested it might. if you check the shell website they do actually confess that it wont do anything unless you have a suitable car. i just checked and your swift can only adapt its ignition timing up to 95ron levels (even the swift sport isnt fully adaptive) so higher octane cant help, it simply isnt possible.

The M15A engine as used in the Ignis Sport in UK trim has a sticker inside the petrol cap saying this car runs on 98ron fuel, the Swift Sport with its M16A engine is the same. The M15A as found in other Swifts although slightly detuned from Ignis Sport engine (not much in it could be down to Suzuki Motorbike division designed Ignis Sport exhaust) I think would run better on 98ron fuel, so not sure where your info came from. Even though running 98ron fuel the UK Ignis Sport was listed as having 107bhp, JDM Ignis 116bhp with no other differance than the fuel.

Although my Ignis could run on 95ron fuel, it gave way less MPG and felt more sluggish, I tried.

I also use exclusively Tesco 99 or Shell V Power in both my JDM Celica and integrale as being turbo charged cars give better protection to detonation. Even when we ran Cinq turbos there was a definite advantage to running higher octane fuels, the difference was noticeable and although we didn't take r/r runs of the car, there was drop in power. And those were in comparison to manufacturer developed turbo cars crude. Standard Fiat ECU and a piggy back device running a 2nd injector.

One other point, whenever you dismantle an engine you can generally see what kind of fuel has been used, V-power cars tend to have nice clean inlet ports & piston tops due to better blended fuels with better additives/cleaners, whereas cars run on lower octane fuels especially supermarket brands shows signs of deposits due to use of cheaper additives.

But this has all been covered before and I think the impartial findings of Thorney Motorsport are worth reading.

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results.shtml
 
The M15A engine as used in the Ignis Sport in UK trim has a sticker inside the petrol cap saying this car runs on 98ron fuel, the Swift Sport with its M16A engine is the same. The M15A as found in other Swifts although slightly detuned from Ignis Sport engine (not much in it could be down to Suzuki Motorbike division designed Ignis Sport exhaust) I think would run better on 98ron fuel, so not sure where your info came from. Even though running 98ron fuel the UK Ignis Sport was listed as having 107bhp, JDM Ignis 116bhp with no other differance than the fuel.

Although my Ignis could run on 95ron fuel, it gave way less MPG and felt more sluggish, I tried.

I also use exclusively Tesco 99 or Shell V Power in both my JDM Celica and integrale as being turbo charged cars give better protection to detonation. Even when we ran Cinq turbos there was a definite advantage to running higher octane fuels, the difference was noticeable and although we didn't take r/r runs of the car, there was drop in power. And those were in comparison to manufacturer developed turbo cars crude. Standard Fiat ECU and a piggy back device running a 2nd injector.

One other point, whenever you dismantle an engine you can generally see what kind of fuel has been used, V-power cars tend to have nice clean inlet ports & piston tops due to better blended fuels with better additives/cleaners, whereas cars run on lower octane fuels especially supermarket brands shows signs of deposits due to use of cheaper additives.

But this has all been covered before and I think the impartial findings of Thorney Motorsport are worth reading.

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results.shtml


tooooooooooooooo much information :D:D:D:D

ps. you'll also find that the amount of deposits left on piston tops has a direct link to the regularity that the car reaches it's rev limiter

my old engine will vouch for that:eek::slayer::p
 
in those days the ignition advance could be manually set to suit the fuel, usually as easily as adjusting the angle that the dizzy sits at. at your age i'm sure you will remember doing that to your older (pre93) cars? if you stuck 5 star fuel in an older car there was no change unless you also adjusted the dizzy angle. if you then went back to 4 star is didnt run as well and you had to knock the dizzy back. many people had 2 marks on the dizzy so they could easily adjust for each fuel in less than a minute. that is what i did. during the week you use 4 star to save cash, then at the weekend you go racing other boyracers on 5 star. :D

those were the days, you could "remap" your own car for free. bloody ecu's and fuel injection came along and ruined my world.
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:yeahthat: Up till the 70s dizzis had a vernier timing set via a knurled nut . If you had to fill up with low octane fuel you just opened the bonnet reached in and clicked it back about 7 notches on the rachet. Reason for posting is that it was in WWII that the function of lead in slowing down the flame front became known. Texas crude contains natural lead, when US built aircraft started using middle east sourced fuel they suffered engine failures, burnt out valves and holed pistons, not good news if you were over Berlin in a plane sporting the stars and stripes:mad:. The term Octane BTW comes from the test method, a standard research engine is run in a lab on octane, which is a hydrocarbon at a point where it just not pinking. It is then run on the fuel under test and the compression ratio adjusted until it is again just about to pink, the ratio of compression ratios is the octane rating.
 
The M15A engine as used in the Ignis Sport in UK trim has a sticker inside the petrol cap saying this car runs on 98ron fuel, the Swift Sport with its M16A engine is the same. The M15A as found in other Swifts although slightly detuned from Ignis Sport engine (not much in it could be down to Suzuki Motorbike division designed Ignis Sport exhaust) I think would run better on 98ron fuel, so not sure where your info came from. Even though running 98ron fuel the UK Ignis Sport was listed as having 107bhp, JDM Ignis 116bhp with no other differance than the fuel.

Although my Ignis could run on 95ron fuel, it gave way less MPG and felt more sluggish, I tried.

I also use exclusively Tesco 99 or Shell V Power in both my JDM Celica and integrale as being turbo charged cars give better protection to detonation. Even when we ran Cinq turbos there was a definite advantage to running higher octane fuels, the difference was noticeable and although we didn't take r/r runs of the car, there was drop in power. And those were in comparison to manufacturer developed turbo cars crude. Standard Fiat ECU and a piggy back device running a 2nd injector.

One other point, whenever you dismantle an engine you can generally see what kind of fuel has been used, V-power cars tend to have nice clean inlet ports & piston tops due to better blended fuels with better additives/cleaners, whereas cars run on lower octane fuels especially supermarket brands shows signs of deposits due to use of cheaper additives.

But this has all been covered before and I think the impartial findings of Thorney Motorsport are worth reading.

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results.shtml

Hmmm :bang:

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:yeahthat: Up till the 70s dizzis had a vernier timing set via a knurled nut . If you had to fill up with low octane fuel you just opened the bonnet reached in and clicked it back about 7 notches on the rachet. Reason for posting is that it was in WWII that the function of lead in slowing down the flame front became known. Texas crude contains natural lead, when US built aircraft started using middle east sourced fuel they suffered engine failures, burnt out valves and holed pistons, not good news if you were over Berlin in a plane sporting the stars and stripes:mad:. The term Octane BTW comes from the test method, a standard research engine is run in a lab on octane, which is a hydrocarbon at a point where it just not pinking. It is then run on the fuel under test and the compression ratio adjusted until it is again just about to pink, the ratio of compression ratios is the octane rating.

O.K :bang:

Did you ever regret starting a thread :rolleyes::p
 
Did you ever regret starting a thread :rolleyes::p
i started a thread asking for pics of someone in particular, but i got the wrong name and actually asked for pics of a minging fatty. strangely there was an endless supply of pics of her, even when i said stop they kept on coming.
 
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i started a thread asking for pics of someone in particular, but i got the wrong name and actually asked for pics of a minging fatty. strangely there was an endless supply of pics of her, even when i said stop they kept on coming.

that's a beaut story:rolleyes:
 
i started a thread asking for pics of someone in particular, but i got the wrong name and actually asked for pics of a minging fatty. strangely there was an endless supply of pics of her, even when i said stop they kept on coming.

Can you remmeber her user name, we arn't all as picky as you are.:)
 
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