Technical Day running lights warning on dash

[hennabm]

A recent habit/fault has been for the car to display the warning of "Check day running lamps" every time I turn on the sidelights or headlights.

The thing is I always run with the day running lights off. Last week I went into the menu and turned them on. Both worked and yet when I turned on the side lights I still had the check message of the running lamps on the dash. I took each bulb out and checked the bulb and contacts.

I have turned off the running lights again in the menu and still the message persists.

Anyone else had this problem? Is it just Fiat electrics again?

PS - I also have the seatbelt symbol dimly lit when I turn off the ignition and remove the key.

 

[Mike1alike]

I took each bulb out and checked the bulb and contacts.

Did tou check the number plate bulb, too?

 

[hennabm]

Did tou check the number plate bulb, too?

Yes

 

[ZaphodB]

PS - I also have the seatbelt symbol dimly lit when I turn off the ignition and remove the key.

This sounds like a related earthing problem.

Check the voltage directly across the various lamps first.

 

[hennabm]

This sounds like a related earthing problem.

Check the voltage directly across the various lamps first.

Thanks!

Looks like a long job to track down the point of the problem.

 

[ZaphodB]

Thanks!

Looks like a long job to track down the point of the problem.

Just go through it methodically, checking every light fitting and it's respective earth first, ticking them all off your list of suspects, then move on to the next.

I can't find any circuit diagrams for this model, but check the basics off your list first, .... earths .... everywhere that there are earths

 

[hennabm]

I’ve found the attached diagram showing the earth points. For me to check the dash earths, is there a guide to removing the A pillar trims to hopefully get to the earth points.

 

[ZaphodB]

The trims will just pull off , they’re usually held in place with a variation of a fir tree fastener. https://vehicleclips.co.uk/collecti...PBiP2QZYzUbODeTUpNcg1FNOFfQ36aSN1OrgcbYZclnu5

You’d be better off with some trim removal tools to help you get the trims off: https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/amte...MI0ci4obahjwMVl5JQBh3XTwAbEAQYCCABEgJR1fD_BwE

 

[varesecrazy]

A recent habit/fault has been for the car to display the warning of "Check day running lamps" every time I turn on the sidelights or headlights.

The thing is I always run with the day running lights off. Last week I went into the menu and turned them on. Both worked and yet when I turned on the side lights I still had the check message of the running lamps on the dash. I took each bulb out and checked the bulb and contacts.

I have turned off the running lights again in the menu and still the message persists.

Anyone else had this problem? Is it just Fiat electrics again?

PS - I also have the seatbelt symbol dimly lit when I turn off the ignition and remove the key.

My 2012 is suffering poor / unreliable contacts of the bulb holders

Damp spring days.. So I disabled it.. Not recurred

Dash glowing is not uncommon.. Mine is a different region of dash IIRC

BATTERY does Not get drained though