Technical Cooling fan relay

[herut]

My 1998 Marea 1.6 Petrol, Automatic (same engine as Bravo) needs a new relay for the cooling fan/AC circuit. It is Fiat part #46410803 or #7079615. When I go to put it in my basket on eper I always get the pop-up 'sorry mate there's pirates in these waters,,,' So I can't order from there. My overseas Fiat garage doesn't stock it. I can't find it on ebay. I did find it listed in the catalogues of Argentinian and Brazilian suppliers, but seems they don't sell to the public. Any ideas? It is a 4-PIN (not 5 pin) with a 'P' for one of the contacts. Thanks!

Jeff

 

[Gregovic]

The "pirates" message is because the ePer system on here is just intended to let people find the part numbers, it's not actually a shop afaik.

If your garage doesn't stock it, can't they order it for you?

(linking images from your harddrive doesn't work btw)

 

[herut]

The SIDAT Fiat supplier has written back to say 'no longer available' as to that relay. BUT, I'm thinking: if it is a basic single pole 4 pin relay, with known pins 85, 86, and 30, but the positioning of them is different from newer relays, then can I simply buy a new 4pin relay, and connect via short lengths of wires from 85 on relay to 86 spade-in on box, same with, 86, and 30?

That leaves me with a question I cannot find on internet: why is there a 'P' on the original relay in place of pin 87?? And, can I still consider 87 on a new 4pin relay as functioning the same as Fiat's pin 'P'? Someone suggested that 'P" means it takes a 'pulse' from ecu, but I'm not sure if that's right, or, if it makes a difference. Any help from auto electricians? Thanks!
--Jeff

 

[herut]

Correction: I obviously meant: Contact #85 on relay wired to spade-in #85 on block, etc.
--Jeff

 

[reddy4bed]

I think you must have a pre '99 model with slightly different relay connections.
The "p" probably means a parallel link for power see pic.
Yes its ok to put a 4 pin device in there, just follow the connection numbers etc.
Tony.