Tuning big tyres..

[benjii]

hi everyone,

to make my 4x4 more capable off road i want to put 14" punto wheels on it then offroad tyre's, pandik on here i think has got 185/65/14 on his 4x4 but i cant find a off road tyre that size, the one's i have found are 185/80/14... i plan to make it higher and spacers to make it wider aswell, would these tyres be ok to fit or would i have to do anything etc..?? :worship:

Cheers Benjii

 

[lewey]

Those tyres are bigger than the whole arch, so can't be fitted. Do a search on tyres in this section and find the answer to every conceivable question on the subject including:
"How large a tyre can I get on my 4x4?"
"Where can I get suitable tyres?"
"What wheel offset and spacers do I need?"
"How do I increase the ride height of my 4x4?"

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Not possible. Don't even increase the tyre size on the standard wheels!!

You'll get a lot of rub and can say bye bye to an impossible to replace fuel filler pipe. Don't say you haven't been warned

It's not about tyre size, more quality

 

[benjii]

oooo okay thats a no no then i want to upgrade to 14" wheels really because its a easy mod to make it higher.... whats the biggest size tyre i could put on with 14" wheels?? i did a seach and cant really find much

thanks Benji

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

i want to upgrade to 14" wheels really because its a easy mod to make it higher....

no it isn't. This is what I'm saying. It WILL cause rubbing!

Forget the idea I'd say. From my experience and that of others it WILL end in tears!

 

[benjii]

Ahh this is a pain!! I have seen it done before and I don't mind modifying I have seen 175/65/14 which are smaller than pandik's so can't be much of a problem can it?? Lol

Benjii

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Ahh this is a pain!! I have seen it done before and I don't mind modifying I have seen 175/65/14 which are smaller than pandik's so can't be much of a problem can it?? Lol

Benjii

But Pandik's is far from standard

When people lower a car they don't put smaller wheels on they change the suspension. So raising a car will be similar

 

[benjii]

Yes I know I plan to raise the car aswell this month so shud be alright shouldn't it

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Yes I know I plan to raise the car aswell this month so shud be alright shouldn't it

Not nessecarily as you'll still get body roll and axle offset (forget the proper name) when off roading. You'll need to prevent this before increasing wheel size.

 

[benjii]

What do you mean by all that lol sorry not heard of this before

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Articulation is the word I was looking for.

Visible here mainly on the rear axel. N/S gets a massive gap and O/S will have the wheel sink into the arch, and if the wheel / tyre is to big it'll causing rubbing and possibly even jam



Even better example here.

 

[benjii]

ahh yes i have thought about this before, i plan to roll the arches out or cut the lip then extend the arches out with arch extention thingys lol

 

[Panda4x4net]

If you put bigger tyres, you will lose power.

Even if you have a 1200cc motor you will sacrifice the gearbox!!!

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

ahh yes i have thought about this before, i plan to roll the arches out or cut the lip then extend the arches out with arch extention thingys lol

The wheels don't just move up and down, they go intowards the body shell also, and thats something you can't remould

 

[benjii]

Yeh also thought of this I will put spacers on to move the wheels away from the body as will also give me a bigger stance so with all these mods those 175/65/14 shud fit lol

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

Yeh also thought of this I will put spacers on to move the wheels away from the body as will also give me a bigger stance so with all these mods those 175/65/14 shud fit lol

Well you seem adamant on doing it dispite being advised by myself and others not to. But the choice is yours and it seems your mind was made up before making this thread anyway so go ahead

 

[lewey]

The draw of the wheels is strong for you, so as MEP says, just go for it Benjii! Just be really careful when you're measuring up and test driving the thing. Consider modifying parts, like the filler, to avoid damage.

 

[VmanC]

Yeh also thought of this I will put spacers on to move the wheels away from the body as will also give me a bigger stance so with all these mods those 175/65/14 shud fit lol

Your wheel/tyre diameter will be about an inch bigger compared to standard with this size fitted, a little too much for a standard 4x4, but fine with your other mods.
I wouldn't recommend going any bigger than this though as you will strain the engine and gearbox too much, as has already been mentioned.
I suggest you buy and fit the wheels and tyres first, then you can see how much you need to raise the body or modify the arches.

 

[benjii]

Thanks for all the advice, I am going to go ahead with it so watch this space

 

[pandamaniac]

Benji.
Why not just buy a series 1 Landrover , Lada or Suzuki Jeep and stop f...ing up a Panda.
I know we all have ideas but get a grip and stop the fantasizing and listen to them in the know.

PS I can be proved wrong
Dave