Technical  Airbag Module CAN wires identification.

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Technical  Airbag Module CAN wires identification.

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One evening started car up and dash randomly popped up with all the Airbag lights, flashing mileage and fuel cut off unavailable. When plugged into multiecu I had several errors in instrument panel/body control module/engine ECU. I could not access the continental airbag module at all using multiecu. See pictures of errors attached. I am trying to identify whether it is an issue with the CAN wiring, the airbag module, or the BCM.

I have verified I have 60ohms on the CAN system at the OBD port and my CAN H/L voltages and continuity from OBD port to pins on BCM connector. However I am struggling to identify the CAN wires/pins for the airbag module at the connectors. I have verified good power and grounds to the airbag module but nothing on either of the 2 airbag module connectors has continuity with the CAN pins at OBD/BCM and I am getting no CAN voltages present at either of the airbag module connectors. Which would make me think it’s BCM/Wiring related issue rather than the airbag module itself. I don’t fancy taking the dash out to physically follow the loom lol. Anyone advise pin layout for the airbag module connectors or where the CAN wires are fed from?
 
Model
1.2 8v Pop
Year
2013
Mileage
70000

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No 2012 diagrams available for free. We have only eLearn for Grande. But most things should be similar to Evo/2012.
Start here (AirBag): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000000/199002892
CAN structure for the car is here (but low res only): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000003/199002596
OK, here (high res pictures, pin numbers): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000000/199001200

If you are into diagnostics, you must have an oscilloscope, cheap toy one will do (then you can upgrade in the future, buy a real one).
CAN H and L signals are like mirror image (this example is an OBD2 port, pins 6 and 14).
OBD2_port_CAN_pins_6-14.jpg
 
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No 2012 diagrams available for free. We have only eLearn for Grande. But most things should be similar to Evo/2012.
Start here (AirBag): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000000/199002892
CAN structure for the car is here (but low res only): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000003/199002596
OK, here (high res pictures, pin numbers): https://4cardata.info/elearn/199/2/199000000/199000000/199000000/199001200

If you are into diagnostics, you must have an oscilloscope, cheap toy one will do (then you can upgrade in the future, buy a real one).
CAN H and L signals are like mirror image (this example is an OBD2 port, pins 6 and 14).
View attachment 487230
Ahh perfect, Thank you very much. That is very helpful
 
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