this car commits a Fiat sin! its like the Seicento Abarth and Cinquecento Abarth. its not Mad enough, yet its not plain either, it just looks like its trying too hard.
Abarths should be like Abarths of old like the old 500 (I think) where it over heated so they just welded the bonnet open, that's an Abarth and anything wearing an Abarth badge and its not wheel spinning sideways into a car park on fire is just not an Abarth.
The problem as I see it with the GPA is that it is cheap enough to attract the idiots, and that is never cool :nono: :bang:
They weren't cheap when I bought mine!
Just got to wait for all the idiots to wreck them and crash them now - it will take a few years, but will happen.
People don't always realise how rare the AGP is. 366 were registered, and there are 350 left. I think there were about 60 black ones registered in 2009 (most were red or white), and most won't be the EsseEsse version, as that cost an extra £4000.
i been in a APE supersport and driven an AGP essesse and it just felt a bit boring to me.. I know its not slow or anything but crucially it didn't feel particularly fast. I embarrassed a lad in on with my old seicento turbo and pretty sure a mk1 GT would utterly destroy one.. The engine is good though, throw some tuning things at it and it can make really impressive numbers but out the box it feels lacklustre to me and lacking excitement. All this is of course just my opinion, i can see why people like them and stuff but for me they need to age another 10 to 15 years and then i suspect i will really want one lol.
The grande in general i have always thought feels flimsy and badly put together inside which is a big shame - defo the best looking hatch released recently (yes its not really recently anymore but i still consider them new cars).
You weren't driving it right then!! The EsseEsse is quicker 0-62 and top speed than a mk1 GT.
It is extremely docile until prodded. A couple of people have tried mine & thought it wasn't that quick as a passenger - it nearly threw then into the hedge despite my warning!
The early Grande looked a bit flimsy inside, but the Abarth always gets compliments about the quality of the fit & finish. Are you sure it was an Abarth?
see its not even the speed though, its the sense of urgency or lack thereof i don't like. Each to their own though
The grande in general i have always thought feels flimsy and badly put together inside which is a big shame - defo the best looking hatch released recently (yes its not really recently anymore but i still consider them new cars).
They weren't cheap when I bought mine!
Just got to wait for all the idiots to wreck them and crash them now - it will take a few years, but will happen.
People don't always realise how rare the AGP is. 366 were registered, and there are 350 left. I think there were about 60 black ones registered in 2009 (most were red or white), and most won't be the EsseEsse version, as that cost an extra £4000.
For reference it's 7.5 secs 0-62 officially, so quicker than a mk1 GT.
If everyone substitutes excitement for character then I'll agree! It's indecently quick overtaking, and is more capable than I am on the bends - not really interested in traffic light grand prix's (unless I'm in a 127, or maybe a Panda!!) these days so 0-62 is largely academic.
Personally I prefer a mk1 Punto Sporting (notice I didn't say GT ) because of the feel & feedback you get (amongst other things). Doesn't mean it's better though - and I would choose the AGP to drive a few 100 miles at high motorway speeds.
It's good everyone doesn't like the same thing, and good that people believe the 500 Abarth is better. I'll see what everyone says when it's 15/20 years old, I think.
I embarrassed a lad in on with my old seicento turbo and pretty sure a mk1 GT would utterly destroy one..
But still, 7.8 secs vs 7.5 secs - they are basically same on acceleration, its close enough for a race to be decided by driver skill/error anyway which makes them the same in my book