100m Mosque in London

[bozzy]

Its rare that I post anything that is related to religion. I tried it two Xmas's ago and offended somebody in this forum I didnt want to, however here's my slant on things.

If there is any chance that this mosque will promote the true nature of the average muslim then fear nothing. It will promote peace. The locals will be given an opportunity to vote on the building of the mosque and it should be important to them and no-one else. No, I don't think any tax-payers money should go on ANY religious building when there is human suffering around us all. Let me add I am not religious at all but understand that people need it for everything to make sense. Live & let live folks, lifes too short.

 

[The Negotiator]

I surrender.!
Damm my french tainted blood!

LOL. Don't worry, i'll sort it out using strongly worded letters....



[English]

 

[beastyjay]

always the best solution

 

[Jai]

well the flag was something out of boredom. does it offend you? want me to change it before you cry? poor baby

considering your stance on all things non white, he's asking how you could be associated with it?

 

[Venters]

LOL. Don't worry, i'll sort it out using strongly worded letters....



[English]

Hmm interesting tact.
I may just wave my bare arse in your direction till you submit.

Scottish!

 

[The Negotiator]

considering your stance on all things non white, he's asking how you could be associated with it?

Exactly, of course it doesn't offend me, why would it? The Japanese however do have one of the most brutal records with Christian-whites, most specifically treatment during WW2, thus only a clueless idiot would pretend to be a white supremacist (whatever one of those is) and yet support such a nation.

I have to admit your attitude and ignorance offends me a lot more than the Japanese do; at least what they did was in the past, you can't use that excuse.

 

[The Negotiator]

Hmm interesting tact.
I may just wave my bare arse in your direction till you submit.

Scottish!

Still English side of me....we'll just kick your ass and have done with it. It's too cold up there anyway.

 

[Venters]

Still English side of me....we'll just kick your ass and have done with it.

Gotta drag up the past eh?

 

[The Negotiator]

Gotta drag up the past eh?

I think we have just proven why racism/nationalism etc. on the most part is just absurd and meaningless...although it's great for satire and comedy sketches

Whatever you do, don't mention the war!

 

[dave]

They're not aliens, we're all the same...

so what you got against aliens?

 

[Venters]

They are green not same colour as any of us!

 

[The Negotiator]

so what you got against aliens?

Very good.

I also don't like jelly fish whilst I am filled of hatred.

 

[Koa]

Well, I knew it was a bad idea posting this
However I did think for once that everyone would actually take note of what was asked and not be a complete pr*ck about it.
But then, I was just kidding myself I suppose.

My reasoning for voting NO was purely down to the fact that I thought this was being funded by tax payers, and also I am a West Ham fan.
I'll explain the second comment

Going to Upton park is one of the most intimidating places in the football league, it puts fear into travelling supporters, that gives west ham fans the upper hand when it comes to cheering on the Hammers
If there's a great big Mosque just down the road from the Hammers new stadium The away fans will just see at as a sight seeing day and they'll have no issues coming to our place. Lessening our chance of winning home games and lets face it we don't need that

NO racial motives whatsoever on my part, I am married to a half native American Indian, whose parents are the most amazing people I've ever known, apart from myself of course.

Jai, my comment about the FF court was purely tongue in cheek, I should have made that clearer

 

[faster4_tec]

I'm not voting till I know more (well Ionly read the first page, then felt compelled to write something down).


but it appears ken livingstone will back this, yet not building any NEW christian or catholic or methodist churchs. odd ain't it, since they are the vast majority of religions (or deviations stemming from).


I'm not atall religious, got far better things to be doing with my sundays, so take no sides

 

[The Negotiator]

Why build more Christian churches when the ones that exist are half empty? Why build additional Christian churches when the church has masses of land and thousands of existing churches? They already built st. Pauls at a time when Christianity was strong in the UK, but now the fastest growing religion is most probably Islam, hence it makes sense. I also don't see the Christian churches putting in proposals for such places, thus how can Ken support or reject applications when they don't exist?

 

[JonnyBoy]

Its rare that I post anything that is related to religion. I tried it two Xmas's ago and offended somebody in this forum I didnt want to, however here's my slant on things.

If there is any chance that this mosque will promote the true nature of the average muslim then fear nothing. It will promote peace. The locals will be given an opportunity to vote on the building of the mosque and it should be important to them and no-one else. No, I don't think any tax-payers money should go on ANY religious building when there is human suffering around us all. Let me add I am not religious at all but understand that people need it for everything to make sense. Live & let live folks, lifes too short.

This sums up my viewpoint pretty much precisely; I'm atheistic but I think that religion is OK so long as it's not fanatical; i.e if nobody causes harm to anyone else in the name of their religion, or tries to force their religion upon anyone else, then there's no problem.

Sadly, some think that fanaticism and "attempting conversion" is OK

If this new mosque is self-funding and doesn't adversely impact non-Muslims then I see no reason to oppose it.

 

[dave]

I'm not voting till I know more (well Ionly read the first page, then felt compelled to write something down).


but it appears ken livingstone will back this, yet not building any NEW christian or catholic or methodist churchs. odd ain't it, since they are the vast majority of religions (or deviations stemming from).


I'm not atall religious, got far better things to be doing with my sundays, so take no sides

i would advise read the whole thread

 

[jug]

just another example to add to my list of reasons to leave this country. i pay so much tax and it gets used for so much crap. i'm sick of it, it makes me mad. i often think this country must be run by complete idiots. i wouldnt be surprised if they agreed to build another millenium dome next.

hang on! why is this going to be funded by taxpayers when other religious buildings are not?

 

[The Negotiator]

Jug, read the thread!!

 

[jug]

Jug, read the thread!!

oh!

its going to be turned down, so its not an issue.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/18/nmosque18.xml