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Old 23-04-2007   #1
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Angry Leaking climate gas

Warm weather is upon once again and so its time for my climate to stop working. Had the Multiwagon from a mere 6 months old on 52 plate and every summer since had to have it re-gassed although when checking they cant find a leak, SO WHERE THE FOOK DOES IT GO......!
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Re: Leaking climate gas

Have you used your aircon during the winter months? If not, then the gas would have escaped from the contraction of the o-rings, which seal the pipes.

The o-rings are a rubber compound and contract in cold weather.
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Re: Leaking climate gas

spot on, the gas actually lubricates the o rings which keep them sealed (and stops them contracting), i always run my aircon for about 10-20 mins a week all though the winter months.

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Re: Leaking climate gas

The manual recommends to run your aircon for 10 minutes per month to prevent leakage.
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Cheers but yes i run it all year round, unfortunatley this doesnt help.
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Re: Leaking climate gas

is this an air con specialist or just a re fill garage?. You will probally better off getting a expert to look at it as the ones in tire garages wouldnt spot a leak even if there was a massive arrow saying LEAK HERE on the car. You will probally re coup the cost after a couple of years with the amount of re fills you have had.
I know the stilo is prone to having cracked plastic pipes on the system, these are pretty easy to find on the car, it maybe worth checking these out, and maybe getting the soapy water out once the things been presurised.
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Re: Leaking climate gas

Fiat refilled mine with colorized gas, which is traceable with some special lamp. But it never leaked again. The car had been stored for a year before I bought it and all gas had vaporized or something.

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http://www.spangerum.com:7080/navi?C...D=1&GUI_LANG=3

This is a view of the system and the pipe on the bottom left of the rad is a favorite culprit and breaks ..mine is broken there..
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Re: Leaking climate gas

My MW on a 52 plate has also lost it's aircon gas.... I run it all year round also. However this is the first time I've needed a re-gas in 4 years so can't complain

At last something that has lasted for more than the manufactirers warranty
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Cheers all for the advice, and your JTD is the same spec as my MW 1.6 petrol so good luck !
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Re: Leaking climate gas

There aren't many air con systems that are totally gas tight, a bit like tyres, a lot of them have very slow leaks and when you're talking years then that's a very slow leak indeed.

Even if it is gas tight (and some systems I know can last a lifetime without leaks or need topping up) the thing is, it could really do with a drain down and refill as otherwise it's the same oil going around the system year after year and that's counter productive and costly in the long run as there's a compressor in there working hard with little pistons going up and down like the clappers

So, having an annual system check, drain down and refill is well worthwhile and can make a big difference to efficiency otherwise the compressor is working twice as hard all the time
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Re: Leaking climate gas

Got mine booked in for a service and re-gas on Friday, £67 inclusive. As I'm taking it to the garage and not being done at home I'll get a discount off that price too.

Found the company online www.coolcaraircon.co.uk based in Solihull and will do home calls within a 30 min radius of Solihull....I'm just outside that radius so taking it to them hence discount

I'll let you know what I think when it's done.
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Re: Leaking climate gas

Had the air con looked at, gas was fine, turned out it was a blown fuse... then came the next problem..... the fuses in the battery compartment are corroded into place ...I managed to break the air con fuse getting it out and then spent the best part of 2 hours trying to get the broken part out .... did manage it in the end, replaced the fuse and hey presto the air con now works.

coolcaraircon.co.uk only charged 25 for the top up of gas, it had lost a bit but not enough to stop the aircon working.
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Re: Leaking climate gas

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which fuse number was it? i may check mine later as i'd assumed it was empty.

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Re: Leaking climate gas

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