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Technical Stilo MPG Concerns

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Technical Stilo MPG Concerns

I've run an mpg test in mine to try and beat my collegues's Audi A2 1.4Tdi (No chance but it wound in his neck a bit!) I do a 30mile round trip to work a day, 15mile motorway, 15mile

60litre tank....

515miles tank range (39mpg-ish) on cheap supermarket diesel being thrashed everywhere....:eek:

540miles (41mpg) on cheap supermarket diesel being driven not above 2000 revs everywhere.:nono:

525miles (40mpg) on BP Diesel Extra being thrashed.:D

575miles (44.5mpg) on BP being driven under 2000 revs.

570miles (44mpg) on BP being driven in a relaxed manner but not sticking to the 2000rev rule.

690miles (52.5mpg) on a long, all over the Uk, Motorway run.:eek:

No aircon was used in any of the tests, just heated rear window and the Connect Nav+ 60mpg? I'd be well happy if i could get that!!!! My buddy's Audi A2 gets 70mpg on a motorway run at 55mph dodging artics, but lets be honest.....it looks like a mum's shopping cart. :devil:
 
SwanseaStiloJTD said:
Will a re-map help much? I don't drive like a nutter either, In fact i drive like a granny sometimes to keep the mpg good! Is there a trick to the gearing that will help?
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Have you tried resetting Trip B like Argonought says, and whilst driving use a block-shifting technique? i.e. Get up to speed fairly quickly and then cruise in high gear.
It is accelerating that burns the fuel quickly, not so much driving fast.

Worth a try I reckon.

Maybe there are others on here who have tried it? Let us know guys (y)
 
Argonought said:
As wotnowarninglight pointed out, mpg is always worst in winter.

Tyre rolling resistance can have quite an effect too (width, make of tyre or under-inflated etc)
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Suppose I could test your theory Argo... I have a set of stock 15'' steelies in the garage, if I crack 60MPG will be a convert to cheap nasty wheel trims :eek:

Seriously though, could run the steelies a while while I get the alloys refurbed.

Just as a comparison 1.6 5dr lowest 32 MPG - Average range 33 to 40 (Winter) 40-49 (Summer) - Trip B max. 53.5 MPG... bettering 43-45 mpg with 16vt coupe alloys a struggle, even in summer :cry:
 
Checked the MPG on journey home from work, this included the running miles with the engine cold and faulty egr valve.....guess what average mpg went down from 45.9 to 44.1 mpg. Not a big difference, however it is basically downhill from work to home, so the mileage running when engine cold and faulty egr valve has a big effect on MPG.

Anybody know how easy it is to fit egr valve and fiat part no. ? If it's an easy job I object to paying exhorbitant FIAT prices.(n)
 
nightsmith said:
It is accelerating that burns the fuel quickly, not so much driving fast.

Worth a try I reckon.

Maybe there are others on here who have tried it? Let us know guys (y)
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It's not actually the accelerating itself which is so bad it's the stopping afterwards. Saving fuel equates pretty much to saving momentum and the single biggest killer of momentum is your foot brake.

Anything you do to avoid braking will improve fuel economy.

The trick is to ALWAYS think ahead and be prepared for what's happening to cars, traffic lights & junctions ahead of you.

NEVER hang on to the tail of the car ahead but hang back so you can slow naturally. If you can see lights are at RED then slow down long before you get to them and if you time it right then they'll go GREEN and you wont even need to stop (a real winner). Apply the same rule to roundabouts - lay off the power long before you approach and try to time traffic so you aren't actually forced to stop.

Many people associate driving economically with Granny driving which couldn’t be more wrong. Laying off the use of the brake (sensibly) will invariably put you ahead of many drivers on the road who don't think ahead.

Once out of town the real fun starts but the same principal still applies. If there's half a dozen cars in front of me, that just love to brake on every bend, then I weigh the advantage of getting past all of them to find that clear road ahead. I'll be using the box to the full to do that but if I make that open road then I'll get the economy back as I wont need that brake pedal again.

There are also bad times to overtake. Don't overtake into a town, a speed limit or a junction as it'll almost certainly require using the brakes (all you do is put the car in front behind your rear bumper - instead of miles behind it :devil: ).

Safe motoring :)
 
Argonought said:
The trick is to ALWAYS think ahead and be prepared for what's happening to cars, traffic lights & junctions ahead of you.

NEVER hang on to the tail of the car ahead but hang back so you can slow naturally. If you can see lights are at RED then slow down long before you get to them and if you time it right then they'll go GREEN and you wont even need to stop (a real winner). Apply the same rule to roundabouts - lay off the power long before you approach and try to time traffic so you aren't actually forced to stop.

There are also bad times to overtake. Don't overtake into a town, a speed limit or a junction as it'll almost certainly require using the brakes
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Sounds like someones been on an advanced driving course(y) :D
 
Just done a 350 mile trip, on outward journey averaged 50 MPG, coming back home average dropped down to 47 MPG. At one point the range to empty and distance travelled equalled 801 miles....not seen a figure like that for ages.... I reckon I'm going to get around 630 miles from full tank.
 
Currently showing 47.8 mpg, depends how often the wife drives !!!
In fairness she drives 2 miles to work, I drive 11. On a run fully laden inc roof box we get 49-50.

I thought that mpg would be better in the winter due to the colder/damper air which turbos like. Or is it just a performance thing ?

Does adding injector cleaner stuff make a difference ? I've just put some redex stuff in to see.

Alpinpg getting 20mpg, pah - I managed 9.8mpg towing with a 4.2L Range Rover in the Vosges. 'Twas on lpg thank god !
Cheers
Nig
 
I was trying to go easy on the fuel.....I can get 15mpg without even towing if I try!!!!:D :cry:
 
I always love threads about economy ;)
Mainly because economy is what affects the planet's use of oil - if you consider a small change multiplied by millions of drivers... you can give yourself a warm feeling inside.

Here's a screen capture from my Stilo Abarth - this is a trip across town (business-related, my own company owns my car!). You can see that I've averaged 7.8L/100km on this 7.3km trip which was undertaken through central Hamilton at 11:30PM at fairly slow speeds (but still only took 11 minutes).

I'm really quite excited about this because that's 36mpg over my 4.53 mile trip. That's TOP economy for town driving! :) It's the same as my friend's 2006 Civic Hybrid in the same conditions.

The quoted consumption for the Abarth is 14L/100km (20.14mpg). I tend to average about 9L/100km (31.3mpg) over the whole tank, and on a long trip, I average 8L/100km (35.23mpg), the same as my Uno Turbo, and I think this is pretty good as it's more economical than a 1116cc Uno or FIAT 128.

When I drove the Stilo on a race circuit, I averaged 25L/100km. Even this (11.28mpg) is still good considering that the throttle was 100% open for most of the time - it's still double figures! A friend with an Uno Turbo gets down to single figures (6mpg, to be precise). So I reckon, for the performance, the Abarth is pretty economical.

Incidentally, our diesel fuel in NZ is two-thirds the price of petrol, but we never had diesel Stilos sold here. Diesels make up only a very small fraction of all cars sold. There are road-user charges to pay, which help to negate the cost difference in the long term (you RUC-up your car, paying for kilometres in advance)... Still ends up cheaper than petrol but most private motorists don't bother as we don't like that tractor noise and old-bus smell :D

-Alex
 

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I only do short trips, town driving, the odd mile here or there and get ... wait for it...

15-20 mpg tops. the average speed is usually about 17-18 mph for the tank and I end up getting about 220 - 250 per tank.

marvellous. should really invest in a vespa :D
 
mally said:
Mine takes c 4.5 miles for the temp gauge to reach normal.
I travel 40 mile per day to work of which c 8 miles motorway 8miles dual carriageway rest single carriageway.
I average c 47 mpg from full to empty (this figure is 100% accurate as I measure what goes thru the pump when I fill up and calculate on an excel spreadsheet) sad or what.
For some reason the trip computer exaggerates the mpg by c 3 miles per gallon.

On a long motorway journey driving like an old lady I can get c 54 mpg
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Hi I'm on here looking for a fix for the "loose connection" fault, just done the D4 connector, hopefully this will sort the problem.... to answer your MPG question, I have a 1.9jtd 115bhp, I do a round trip of 55 miles to work, mostly motorway/dual carriageway.... I get 54mpg on this journey, BUT that was by dropping down to 70mph max and changing gear ata round 2000rpm..... if you drive at 80mph this drops to 48.5 mpg so it really is worth slowing down a little.....and I can honestly say that my journey does not take any longer. Mix this driving with normal town driving and I'm achieving 52.5mpg overall....... Almost as sad checking the mpg on a spreadsheet is the fact that I have noticed a saving of £25 a month just for changing my driving style......enough for a decent few beers!!
 
Don't worry about it, I filled my tank up to the brim, just took it down to reserve, covered 226 miles and got a lovely MPG return of 20.9, not be for £48 worth of fuel, I love my 1.6 Stilo, in comparison, the Megane gives us an average MPG of 48 but this is a gutless 1.5 diesel model.
 
Interesting thread (y)
Until I returned to 'normal' duties this week I had been doing a round trip commute of 130+ miles per day on 'minor' A roads with a few interesting B roads thrown in. My standard JTD 115 Stilo has managed an average consumption of 48.2mpg at an average speed of 47mph. Not too shabby IMHO :D
As a contrast the 'company' new model TDI Focus estate on the same roads driven the same way returned a disturbing 39.7mpg :rolleyes:
That said, I was looking a quite nice Abarth 2.4 when I was out car shopping with the wife (for her) and the guys hadn't reset the trip since it came in......scary. It had been averaging 43mph and ....... wait for it...... 19.6mpg :eek: Mind you, no way to know how, where and by who it had been driven but that's scarily thirsty - isn't it :confused:
 
ABZSTILO said:
I was looking a quite nice Abarth 2.4 when I was out car shopping with the wife (for her) and the guys hadn't reset the trip since it came in......scary. It had been averaging 43mph and ....... wait for it...... 19.6mpg :eek: Mind you, no way to know how, where and by who it had been driven but that's scarily thirsty - isn't it :confused:
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I agree for most people but I think you've just upset twincamms :(

He only drives a 1.6 and gets 20.9 mpg :eek: If he can afford that consumption then I'm sure he could afford to run an Abarth and be happy with 19.6 mpg :D
 
Towing my trailer yesterday with the racer on it, a boot full of tools and the wife on board and I managed to get 19.5mpg out of the Abarth......and we went most of the way at 60-80mph so no messing about. Came 2nd overall too...so a good day all round.:cool:
 
I seem to be the lone voice singing the praises of Abarth fuel economy here, but I'm still averaging 9.5L/100km (30mpg) in my town driving, and 7.8L/100km (37mpg) on trips.

It's all about conservation of momentum - read Argonaught's advice again - I follow a few golden rules:
- Move off in 1st, then 'block change' to 3rd (double-click!), accelerate moderately up to town cruising speed, then lift off (no more than 12L/100km (23mpg) during the acceleration phase in 3rd, then go straight to 5th at 60km/h/38mph and maintain speed only). The Stilo engine seems to do a super job of acceleration in 3rd, yet can pull 5th gear smoothly at fairly low speeds (but don't try to accelerate in 5th below 80km/h/50mph as that's probably hard on the gearbox)

- if possible don't use the brakes, even when joining a queue, by anticipating your speed with room to spare

- don't accelerate up hills, ever.

-Alex
 
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Just done 1000 miles in a week, averaged 42 mpg with 4 adults, 1 child, full boot and roofbox on..I'd say that was pretty damm good :slayer:
 
ursabear said:
Just done 1000 miles in a week, averaged 42 mpg with 4 adults, 1 child, full boot and roofbox on..I'd say that was pretty damm good :slayer:
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I have a Stilo 1.6 dynamic 16v 5dr no alloys, normally driving with one passenger and nearly empty boot, i do avg 22mpg, not very sure but it feels to me the car is drinking petrol like anything.

What are the things that significantly affect ones fuel consumption, could i have a leak, anything to do with exhaust, i do need to change my rear brake discs could that be a problem?
 
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