Register Login
endrop - for all your online needs
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20-06-2008   #1
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
ECU Problems getting deeper

My 2003 (8 valve) Punto got some problems in the winter with ECU. Immobilizer got on when it was cold enough. Still it was possible to start car entering the code with throttle pedal. On summer time (more than 8 celcius degrees) no problems at all..

Fault codes that Service been reading from ECU were first antenna which was changed but did not fix the fault. second time fault code was pointing some problems in BUS (really scary). Still no problems on warm weather (summer car ).

Now new problems popped up. I got Airbag light on and Service said that computer is not giving any fault code and they cannot switch code off - computer broken and changing it is about 500-600 Eurs..

Is there any common with those problems I have - except the Fiat itself.. I'm getting tired with the car because no change to debug the fault no change to diagnose the fault by my self no workaround to get rid of faults. Service is always just changing computers but not giving any guarantee if changing the computer works.. Too expensive. Changing computers will double the price of car.. Not sure do i really want it.

What to do with my car - fix it or burn it
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-06-2008   #2
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 788
Thanks: 48
Trader Rating: 0
reddy4bed has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

It does sound as though the body computer is playing up and its not going to be easy to prove.
How I would attempt it, (cos I dont like giving money to "fitters" who have little knowledge).

Try and get BSI near to a heat gun and try to start, also dose it with freezer and try again.
Else get a secondhand BSI and change over the eeprom from the old one and see what happens. Best of luck.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

reddy4bed is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-06-2008   #3
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Where do I find body computer?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-06-2008   #4
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 788
Thanks: 48
Trader Rating: 0
reddy4bed has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

behind the fusebox.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

reddy4bed is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 09-07-2008   #5
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Story continues

In addition to airbag light I got warning light that says that one of the bulbs are broken. Yes there was one in aft which I changed. Still light was staying on and stays on tough all the bulbs are working.

I bought used ECU, body computer and lock set which I changed today.

Car starts and runs OK. Still Airbag light is on all the time. In addition to previous problems my speedometer is blinking with new ECU and Body computer.

1. What might cause problem in Airbag?
2. How to get rid of bulb warning light?
3. Any workaround to get rid of bilking speedometer?

And car is Punto 2003 MK3 1.2 8 valve, ABS, central locks, 2 airbags, no air conditioning....

new ECU and body computer came from 2005 Punto Active.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 09-07-2008   #6
-~Moderator~-
 
a1ant's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,531
Thanks: 679
Trader Rating: 1
a1ant has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Hi,

The car will need proxy alignment at a fiat dealership. This is why the odometer is blinking. They will also be able to turn off the airbag light.

Was the original checks in your first post (ie trying to turn off the airbag light) done by fiat or an independent?

With regards to the bulb warning light, have you checked the voltages and wattage on the new bulb that you have replaced?

Alan
__________________
If you see a problem post, please click the report button

Last edited by a1ant; 09-07-2008 at 18:30.
a1ant is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 09-07-2008   #7
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Quote Originally Posted by a1ant View Post
Hi,

The car will need proxy alignment at a fiat dealership. This is why the odometer is blinking. They will also be able to turn off the airbag light.

Was the original checks in your first post (ie trying to turn off the airbag light) done by fiat or an independent?

With regards to the bulb warning light, have you checked the voltages and wattage on the new bulb that you have replaced?

Alan
Yes checks were done by Fiat service. They said that Airbag computer needs to be changed. Still sounds strange that all computers are giving up.. Still i suspect that there is something common with all these problems.. I need to visit Fiat service tomorrow to get rid of flashing odo.

No I haven't checked the details of bulb - it still works as supposed. I might need to check.

BTW: what does "Proxy alignment" exactly mean? Just to understand what service suppose to do and how much they are going to charge about it..
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 09-07-2008   #8
-~Moderator~-
 
a1ant's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,531
Thanks: 679
Trader Rating: 1
a1ant has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Hi,

Proxy alignment is very basically setting up the dash to your car. Like colaberating it. It only takes about half hour on examiner. Not sure what the hourly labour rate is like in your country.

The airbag light may be able to be reset now that the faulty body computer has gone and save you getting a new airbag ECU. worth trying whilst they do the proxy alignment anyway.

Good luck,
Alan
__________________
If you see a problem post, please click the report button
a1ant is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 10-07-2008   #9
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Flashing odo was cleared in Fiat service. Thanks for tip.

Still problems with Airbag computer. Airbag light stays on Service is not able to read error code. Computer is messed up.. Vcc and ground are OK - cheked by Service.

Where airbag computer is located and is there something that I need to know when removing and changing it? When trying to find replacement what are important to know? Is there similar code locking with body computer as body computer has with ECU?

So it seems that next thing is to find replacement for Airbag computer and change it.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 02-08-2008   #10
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
Re: ECU Problems getting deeper

Anyone over there to help me with Airbag light problem?

Airbag light stays on tough ECU and body computer have changed. Is it Airbag computer what I need to change next? Is it the box under heating system? Is there any tricks I need to know before removing that box or is it just unscrewing bolts and taking away? Is there "handshake" code between body computer and airbag computer or can I just replace the box with box what I just find?

Fiat service has checked that box gets ground and +12v. Any other tips to check before getting new Airbag comp?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

fjasa is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(T) punto ecu problems marbles Punto (Mk2/2b) 5 27-06-2017 15:06
(G) ecu problems can anyone help? michelle&jamie Cinquecento / Seicento 13 26-01-2008 11:17
key and ecu problems, HELP! danielellis55 Newbie Central 0 21-01-2007 13:55
(T) PUNTO ECU PROBLEMS Weeks Punto (Mk1) 14 06-03-2004 02:28
(T) ECU Problems? PurpleMunky Punto (Mk2/2b) 4 08-01-2004 06:28