Technical Multi function display

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Technical Multi function display

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Hi I have a 2004 Dynamic
The Multi function display is flashing, and the clock resets every time I start turn on the ignition. I think the middle button is stuck in /Broken.
Can I go to the local breaker, get a replacement instrument panel and swap it out or will this cause the immobiliser to operate.
Any suggestions o how to solve this minor but irritating fault welcome.
 
The clock resetting at each startup is usually the first sign of a weak battery. Either from lack of use, or just getting old. As the starter takes a lot of power, the clock sees a voltage drop, and resets. Further random electrical issues would follow.

If the middle button is stuck, you might be able to effect a cure if the outer cover is removed, see what is there and how accessible.

The instrument panel remembers the mileage, which is also held in the body computer. If they do not match, the display will flash until they are aligned. You can only align them upwards, to whichever is the higher. If you find a panel showing a higher mileage than yours, that will be your mileage going forward. If you find a lower mileage replacement, it can be aligned to match your current reading. This alignment requires either the dealer diagnostic tool, or a program called MultiECUscan (MES). There are many threads about this, but you need a PC, the software, a licence (€50) and the connector and cables. Alternatively, you need someone nearby with MES, willing to come help. Difficult during lockdown. There's a section about MES location volunteers.
 
The clock resetting at each startup is usually the first sign of a weak battery. Either from lack of use, or just getting old. As the starter takes a lot of power, the clock sees a voltage drop, and resets. Further random electrical issues would follow.

If the middle button is stuck, you might be able to effect a cure if the outer cover is removed, see what is there and how accessible.

The instrument panel remembers the mileage, which is also held in the body computer. If they do not match, the display will flash until they are aligned. You can only align them upwards, to whichever is the higher. If you find a panel showing a higher mileage than yours, that will be your mileage going forward. If you find a lower mileage replacement, it can be aligned to match your current reading. This alignment requires either the dealer diagnostic tool, or a program called MultiECUscan (MES). There are many threads about this, but you need a PC, the software, a licence (€50) and the connector and cables. Alternatively, you need someone nearby with MES, willing to come help. Difficult during lockdown. There's a section about MES location volunteers.

body computer need a voltage above 6V to keep the time


get below 5V and the car will not start



needs sorting. if when its started the voltage across the battery terminals measures over 14V then it likely to just be the battery getting old


properly worse after the stood for some time or its very cold
 
It's interesting the Body Computer needs 6V to keep the clock running. My wife's car was starting and the steering worked normally, but the clock was resetting at every cold start. When I checked the battery voltage on engine start, it was dropping to 7.5 volts.

Now that battery was showing 14.2V with engine running and high 12s with engine off. It was also holding charge, I mean the car always started. However that >7 volts start voltage showed at least one cell was weak and bottoming out when called on to do some real work.

New battery and all was fine again.
 
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It's interesting the Body Computer needs 6V to keep the clock running. My wife's car was starting and the steering worked normally, but the clock was resetting at every cold start. When I checked the battery voltage on engine start, it was dropping to 7.5 volts.

Now that battery was showing 14.2V with engine running and high 12s with engine off. It was also holding charge, I mean the car always started. However that >7 volts start voltage showed at least one cell was weak and bottoming out when called on to do some real work.

New battery and all was fine again.

6V is Fiats own specifications

sounds about right there's a 1V drop within the module. Probably goes through some sort of spike protection


my multimeter samples 3 times a second. When cranking the volts are falling quite quickly. If the lowest reading is 8V its likely the true value will be closer to 6V

Cheap meters are much slower. I always fancied one with a true bar graph at the bottom. If you pay £200 plus they are refreshed much quicker. Unfortunately China meters with a bar graph are fake and just follow the main display.

Get below 5V and you will start to loose the 5V reference to the sensors and the car will not start.


multiecuscan free version allows you to plot the voltage while cranking in the live data window. I don't know if its sample rate is any faster.
 
Thanks for that - makes sense. I tried a few times to get the 7.5 volts value it swung between 7.4 and high 7s. I was surprised the car started and even more surprised that she was not getting steering errors.

New battery is a Yuasa HSB063 £58.63 delivered from Tanya Batteries.
 
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