Technical Thermostat physical damage, overheating panda 1.2

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Technical Thermostat physical damage, overheating panda 1.2

Get some proper coolant in ASAP; the aluminium radiator will be quickly damaged if you leave plain water in there, and then you'll have another leak and another problem.

Some say even leaving the radiator empty but wet for 48hrs is enough to cause significant corrosion damage; the advice if storing one is to dry it internally using compressed air (or whatever; hairdryer perhaps?) before putting it away.


Really? thats bizarre considering aluminium is very unreactive with water.
I have enough coolant to fill it once haha, so I put water in first to run & check for no leaks
 
Clutch. Bleed the hydraulics. If it improves happy days. But it will regress as air gets sucked past the seals. New parts (LuK brand) are about £85 for master and £30 for slave. They come pre-filled so are easy to fit.


This will expose if the actual clutch is worn out. My guess is you need a new clutch.

Generally hydraulics and clutch are done for around the same time, so do the low cost one first.
 
Coolant. Drain out the water it will have nicely flushed out the system. Pour in the correct amount of concentrate and top up with water. Ideally don't use pre-mixed, because water trapped in the system leaves it diluted to some extent.

If you are not already aware, the "quick release" connector on bottom hose is more likely to break than release. Cut off the metal clip and remove the hose in the normal way. us a worm drive clip.

While you are under the car, check the coolant pipe which runs under the exhaust manifold for rust. They are noted for rusting into holes and losing coolant. New part is cheap though fiddly to replace.
 
Get some proper coolant in ASAP; the aluminium radiator will be quickly damaged if you leave plain water in there, and then you'll have another leak and another problem.

Some say even leaving the radiator empty but wet for 48hrs is enough to cause significant corrosion damage; the advice if storing one is to dry it internally using compressed air (or whatever; hairdryer perhaps?) before putting it away.

its probably correct

the aluminium tubes, go into a steel sides
 
its probably correct

the aluminium tubes, go into a steel sides

Plain water is fine for flushing but do not leave for long as the alloy will corrode.

Coolant contains corrosion inhibitors so a wet stored radiator should be fine if swilled out with coolant or just removed containing coolant.
 
Whilst I'm not a B&Q enthusiast, I will admit they have certain advantages. One being that you can wander around the plumbing section looking for fittings because everything is in bins for you to try out against any component you have. If you have a big branch near you I wouldn't be too surprised if you were able to find a metal replacement for that plastic screw in bit of pipe on the thermostat housing?
 
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Coolant. Drain out the water it will have nicely flushed out the system. Pour in the correct amount of concentrate and top up with water. Ideally don't use pre-mixed, because water trapped in the system leaves it diluted to some extent.

If you are not already aware, the "quick release" connector on bottom hose is more likely to break than release. Cut off the metal clip and remove the hose in the normal way. us a worm drive clip.

While you are under the car, check the coolant pipe which runs under the exhaust manifold for rust. They are noted for rusting into holes and losing coolant. New part is cheap though fiddly to replace.

what a lot of hassle

the quick release works perfectly well. You just can't push in the buttons hard enough while pulling. Fiat probably have a special tool. I just use a g-clamp. But there are other ways
 
what a lot of hassle

the quick release works perfectly well. You just can't push in the buttons hard enough while pulling. Fiat probably have a special tool. I just use a g-clamp. But there are other ways

I agree it should be quick release but (both of) mine was so stiff I concluded that breaking it would cause a far bigger problem. It's only there to make life easier on the assembly line and it takes a moment to pop off the crimped band so why risk damaging the radiator.
 
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I agree it should be quick release but (both of) mine was so stiff I concluded that breaking it would cause a far bigger problem. It's only there to make life easier on the assembly line and it takes a moment to pop off the crimped band so why risk damaging the radiator.

You must be doing something wrong. Even poorly maintained Pandas aren't that hard to release.
 
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what a lot of hassle

the quick release works perfectly well. You just can't push in the buttons hard enough while pulling. Fiat probably have a special tool. I just use a g-clamp. But there are other ways

hah, I tried but my grip just isnt strong enough and I don't have a large enough clamp or set of pliers. I removed the hose and replaced with a jubilee clip. Everything seems to be working perfectly now, which feels great!
 
hah, I tried but my grip just isnt strong enough and I don't have a large enough clamp or set of pliers. I removed the hose and replaced with a jubilee clip. Everything seems to be working perfectly now, which feels great!
Yup, that would be my preference too. Over the years I've learned not to trust plastic fittings, especially when they are older. My experience is that they become brittle and I just don't trust them. Also because they are not "generic" when you break one it's most likely to be an extra hassle to fix that I can do without. I just destroyed the original clip on Felicity when I did the timing belt and water pump and pulled the hose off. Jubilee clip sorted it fine on reassembly.
 
You must be doing something wrong. Even poorly maintained Pandas aren't that hard to release.

Probably correct, but try finding instructions on exactly what to press (and more importantly what not to press). Just like the clutch line QD fitting, it's only there to make life easier on the production line.

I didn't take the risk as it takes only a moment to fit a worm clip
 
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