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Old 24-02-2015   #1
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Question Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Hello,

Can anyone identify the hose from the attached images. The black one in the middle. My Panda diesel Multijet has been playing up for a while now and I have just noticed this pipe has broken where it connects to the larger pipe. Hopefully you can see this from the images. It must have been like this for a while as it appears the previous owner has siliconed it.

Also, could this be a DIY job? I've spent so much on fixing this car already and I've only had it a few months.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

sorry no idea, can't see where it's broken from the pics,

use ePER to get an idea.., http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi?...D=1&GUI_LANG=3

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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

I can't tell from that picture... it doesn't look like it's on there. It's the shiny black pipe that's broken. If you can see from the top picture on the left it's not aligned because it's broken. It was difficult to get a good picture because there's lots of other stuff in the way...
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

@Wee Smurf MAY have an idea,

is it not shown on the ePER..??
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

I don't think it's on the ePER. I was thinking perhaps it's the oil breather hose from what I've researched, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Can't help with identifying the pipe, but in the first image the right hand of the shiny normalflex pipe is just a bit higher than the shiny spots of the sealant. In image no 2 is the other way round or upside down and the left end is lower. Doe's this make sense?
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

It is obviously not a high pressure pipe, so a 'low pressure' type repair should fix it.
As you suspect it has been fixed with silicon before, a similar ( only better quality) repair should work. Unless you can get the pipe out that's gonna be a pig of a job.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Correction, the first image is upside down.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

I'd need a better pic. I'm finding it difficult to see it.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Click on the left picture and when it expands, click again and with any luck you will have an enlarged image. The right hand end of the pipe and the hole in the large pipe are clearly visible.
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Quote Originally Posted by tinmar49 View Post
Click on the left picture and when it expands, click again and with any luck you will have an enlarged image. The right hand end of the pipe and the hole in the large pipe are clearly visible.
So the shiny black pipe marked 'normal' on the left end should be connected where the hole is and sealant is visible just below the other end of the shiny pipe? My best guess so far

Sort of obvious once you can see it
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Hopefully these pictures will make more sense. I've made sure they're the right way up. Sorry about the confusing ones before, as you might be able to tell, I'm a bit of and amateur at these things. I just really hope it's fixable and not too expensive...
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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

Could be PCV pipe connecting to the intake. I'd buy a new (or used) intakepart and reconnect everything. Couldn't be too expensive.

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Re: Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

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Could be PCV pipe connecting to the intake. I'd buy a new (or used) intakepart and reconnect everything. Couldn't be too expensive.

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Thank you. That sounds about right. I was researching last night and it looks like the connector is part of the intake pipe, so that is the problem. Does this sound about right?

Also, do you think it could be a DIY job (with my dad, who actually knows something about cars - unlike me)? It seems really difficult to get to. Would I have to remove other things to get to it?

Thanks again for your time.
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Broken hose/pipe. Please help!

I think it is the crank breather pipe that connects to the air inlet pipe from the MAF to the intercooler. As it is broken, it is probably letting unfiltered air into your engine and also causing faulty crankcase breathing.
Not good, but not terminal.
If you can get to it, you could repair the break, because it's not a high pressure pipe so a simple glue and wrap repair would do it, but the best solution is replacement.
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