General Panda 1.2 60bhp remap?

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General Panda 1.2 60bhp remap?

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Hello,has anyone on here had there 1.2 petrol 8v 60bhp Panda remapped?
If so could you give a few details as to if it was worth doing or not.
Thanks in advance.
 
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GSR Remap and induction alone will take you to about 70bhp which does make a nice difference - 3rd gear is loads of fun! The car goes from being underpowered to more typical levels of performance. I would highly recommend it. Fuel economy is much better too.

I have got a new cam and flowed head which don't really whack up the bhp figures as much as you'd think, as there is a bottleneck with the cat / manifold (basically they are rubbish and in worst possible position) and the throttle body is a tad small. But it is very drivable and as you can see from the graph, the torque hangs in there for ages!

Performance wise I'm keeping up with my dads 1.8 Vectra so it's not slow. My car is a bit of a chav.. may not be hard as nails, but definitely will have a go at anything and make alot of noise doing it :) Great fun.
 
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GSR Remap and induction alone will take you to about 70bhp which does make a nice difference - 3rd gear is loads of fun! The car goes from being underpowered to more typical levels of performance. I would highly recommend it. Fuel economy is much better too.

I have got a new cam and flowed head which don't really whack up the bhp figures as much as you'd think, as there is a bottleneck with the cat / manifold (basically they are rubbish and in worst possible position) and the throttle body is a tad small. But it is very drivable and as you can see from the graph, the torque hangs in there for ages!

Performance wise I'm keeping up with my dads 1.8 Vectra so it's not slow. My car is a bit of a chav.. may not be hard as nails, but definitely will have a go at anything and make alot of noise doing it :) Great fun.

Were you the guy that had the K&N fitted before the gsr ?
 
I have a particular interest in this as the induction tooling was made from my panda ..I thought peter told me that you got 68bhp from your day at red dot ? also as you have head work and cam on your car I still think its a bit low on power when you consider oldschools chinq has 80+ from his 1.2 also with head work and 866 cam and induction and map ..oh and a supersprint back box and 30mm throttle body and its also running spi and not mpi like the panda so his chiq is limmited by the spi injection ..
 
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Hey there,
Yes it was producing 68bhp with induction and remap.
The extra power to get it to 75 has come from the cam head work.

Getting back to remapping next week, so there might be more to come, but it seems that the cat / manifold are hindering things quite a bit, this may explain the low power output you mention..

I'm looking into adding a punto 75 or Supersprint manifold and relocating the cat, which should improve things.
 
I have a particular interest in this as the induction tooling was made from my panda ..I thought peter told me that you got 68bhp from your day at red dot ? also as you have head work and cam on your car I still think its a bit low on power when you consider oldschools chinq has 80+ from his 1.2 also with head work and 866 cam and induction and map ..oh and a supersprint back box and 30mm throttle body and its also running spi and not mpi like the panda so his chiq is limmited by the spi injection ..

Maybe the rr isn't over reading as some people claim.;)

It doesn't help to have 195 tyres on. The car was according to the rr 68bhp before the head mod. Unfortunately we do not know what the original power was as we did not rr it with K&N on, which obviously does not represent the original setup.

The cat is very restrictive as is the manifold/downpipe.

We also have to see how it runs now with the long term fuel trim fully adjusted.
 
Maybe the rr isn't over reading as some people claim.;)

It doesn't help to have 195 tyres on. The car was according to the rr 68bhp before the head mod. Unfortunately we do not know what the original power was as we did not rr it with K&N on, which obviously does not represent the original setup.

The cat is very restrictive as is the manifold/downpipe.

We also have to see how it runs now with the long term fuel trim fully adjusted.

Ahhh I see (y).. the o p didn't make it clear that the head job was post induction and map and I read the post as if this was fitted at the time of induction fitting and map being programed ..mine also has 195 tyres fitted to the panda so drive losses are to be expected ..its the price we have to pay for better road holding on the 1.2 panda ..I think we have to make an effort now to get the manifold and exhaust sorted out for the 1.2 and we need to pay a certain person a visit sooner than later ;)
 
Economy is up you say? From what to what MPG? :)

That graph looks perfet IMO... instant torque with nice progressive BHP delivery! Well done! Do you have a before and after comparison graph?
 
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Economy is up you say? From what to what MPG? :)

That graph looks perfet IMO... instant torque with nice progressive BHP delivery! Well done! Do you have a before and after comparison graph?

The before we did not do because the car came with a K&N induction, which obviously does not represent the factory set-up and we are not interested in a comparison/battle with K&N. But we happily look at another car when it comes around.
 
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