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Re: Intermittent fault

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Just remember that the posts are tapered..
Try and wriggle is down as far as you can before tightening
It will only go on till it clicks
How can you tighten it
Mine doesn’t look taped
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Quote Originally Posted by caznandy View Post
It will only go on till it clicks
How can you tighten it
Mine doesnít look taped
Clicks.. that is the battery condition monitor

Just presses onto a spike.. does that sound correct ?
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The quick release disconnects the earth lead but leaves the battery monitor in place on tbe battery. That connection does feel Ďlooseí but will be fine. (They are all like that, but we donít all see the problems you are). The part that remains on the battery has a bolt to tighten the clamp onto the slightly tapered Ďpostí - hence the possible confusion in replies above. I donít think thatís where your issue will be...
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@caznandy You say you had a flat battery. Is it the same battery in the car now? Given you also described the battery monitor connection, it sounds like you have Stop/Start. The battery in a stop/start car doesn’t take kindly to going flat and may not be fully charging and unable to hold its charge. I would suggest checking the battery voltage six or more hours after last drive. It should be precisely 12.6 volts (with the engine off). If it’s down to 12.4 it’s only 50% charged and if 12.2v or less, is failing to hold charge and so needs to be replaced. That almost certainly is the problem... a failing battery will lead to all sorts of randomness, warning lights and odd behaviours. If its still on the original battery in a 2013 car with stop/start, that is pretty good going.

Idea of price (I recommend this company as lowest price and next day delivery -- they were a quarter of the price of EuroCarParts listed price for the battery in my other car!! -- and even their permanent 40% off they still wanted over £200, while Tanya was just £97 all in)
https://www.tayna.co.uk/search/EFB%20027%20 - do check this is correct battery for your car - I think it is, having searched for 2013 model Panda 0.9 with Stop/start
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I'd second Tayna batteries, used them quite a few times and always been unable to find anyone with better prices.
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@caznandy You say you had a flat battery. Is it the same battery in the car now? Given you also described the battery monitor connection, it sounds like you have Stop/Start. The battery in a stop/start car doesn’t take kindly to going flat and may not be fully charging and unable to hold its charge. I would suggest checking the battery voltage six or more hours after last drive. It should be precisely 12.6 volts (with the engine off). If it’s down to 12.4 it’s only 50% charged and if 12.2v or less, is failing to hold charge and so needs to be replaced. That almost certainly is the problem... a failing battery will lead to all sorts of randomness, warning lights and odd behaviours. If its still on the original battery in a 2013 car with stop/start, that is pretty good going.

Idea of price (I recommend this company as lowest price and next day delivery -- they were a quarter of the price of EuroCarParts listed price for the battery in my other car!! -- and even their permanent 40% off they still wanted over £200, while Tanya was just £97 all in)
https://www.tayna.co.uk/search/EFB%20027%20 - do check this is correct battery for your car - I think it is, having searched for 2013 model Panda 0.9 with Stop/start
Thanks for the info
It has stop/start but I don’t use it
I have left the car for 3days and it still starts so battery possibly be ok will check it later today
The other thing I did notice is the light on the stop/start stays on even if I try to turn the stop/start on
Will have a look on the dash to see what they said weather it’s on or of
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It might start, but if voltage low, that leads to all sorts of oddness. My Volvo managed to warn for just about everything over a few days... all fixed by changing the battery.
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It might start, but if voltage low, that leads to all sorts of oddness. My Volvo managed to warn for just about everything over a few days... all fixed by changing the battery.
Just going to order a new battery
As it nearly 8 years old ������
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Let us know the outcome, and if I need to have an edible hat to hand. My view of modern cars and their computer-reported faults is that very nearly always, tbe fault is not whatever the ODB system says it is... it might give an idea of the direction to look in, but every error Iíve ever needed to fix (across a number of cars) has usually been a simple loose or broken wire, dirty contacts or a failing battery. Or, a mechanical issue such as a leaking air hose.
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Let us know the outcome, and if I need to have an edible hat to hand. My view of modern cars and their computer-reported faults is that very nearly always, tbe fault is not whatever the ODB system says it is... it might give an idea of the direction to look in, but every error Iíve ever needed to fix (across a number of cars) has usually been a simple loose or broken wire, dirty contacts or a failing battery. Or, a mechanical issue such as a leaking air hose.
I put my meter on the battery and it was 12.4 turned ing on radio lights it went down to 11.9 started it up it went up to 14.00
Pull a few wires pocked around in both fuse boxes had no effect
So as the battery went to 11.9 I decided to replace it even though it still started ok
But I know what you mean modern electrics do funny things
Let’s hope it works ����
Battery turning up tomorrow ��
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Well fitted new battery and went out for test drive and all the problems have gone
So had to be the battery
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Our 2004 panda 'stopped ' dead after a 30 minute summer journey

No issues were found.. so changed the original Bosch battery..

No further power issues for the next 10 years
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Glad thatís fixed it. (My hat is safe )
Just sometimes, before rushing to the OBD socket or believing the warning lights, itís worth just Ďgoing back to basicsí. The computer stuff is brilliant but far from infallible - especially in these times of low vehicle use.
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Glad that’s fixed it. (My hat is safe )
Just sometimes, before rushing to the OBD socket or believing the warning lights, it’s worth just ‘going back to basics’. The computer stuff is brilliant but far from infallible - especially in these times of low vehicle use.
Totally agree
I try to fix most things myself with the help of the good old google and forums
Yes your hat is safe
Thanks for your help
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Re: Intermittent fault

TBH. The electronics really shouldn't drop out till the battery is below 10v. You'd not be able to bump start a Panda at that voltage whereas some vehicles you could.
These systems have regulation to 5v & 3.3v, you need some headroom of course but to give issues at 11v doesn't really cut the mustard.
Glad it's fixed. Incidentally my last Panda's battery failed totally on the day I was trading it in, could it not have waited till it got to the garage....... Bummer!!!
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