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Judging by sample TA 4x4 discount link with 1500 off, danger of speccing a TA Waze to the same spec and ends up very similar money and a longer build time.
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The Bluetooth in my car. Working for USB socket doesn’t connect and the voice command button on the steering wheel does not work has anyone else had this problem and have you ever had it fixed at a dealership or is it possible to get it fixed cheaper elsewhere?
I suspect you have a new Panda with uConnect radio? If so, the voice control button on the steering wheel only works if the radio is turned on... and if you only have the one USB socket (on top of dash) I think that only acts as a power socket, not a way of connecting a USB device. (I assume Fiat think everyone will use Bluetooth to play music form their phone, rather than the 'old fashioned way' of putting music on a USB stick.) My 2018 4x4 has two USB sockets, one in the glove box and one on dash top by phone cradle. The glovebox one was dropped on the very newest models. Using the Panda uConnect phone app marginally improves music access to playlists etc.
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The 4x4 offer is great, I think. I really fancy a yellow one as a long term toy. Gonna see what packs and options my local dealer will throw in for nought, before I commit though.

I've had a twin-air in a 500L before and I thoroughly enjoyed hooning about in it, but was thoroughly disappointed in the average 36 mpg. I know the score now though so I accept that if I hoon about in a Waze TA (and who wouldn't, it's the thing to do), I'll get f*** all mpg but it will constantly put a smile on my face.

I'll report back in a week or so.

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The 4x4 offer is great, I think. I really fancy a yellow one as a long term toy. Gonna see what packs and options my local dealer will throw in for nought, before I commit though.
It will be interesting to hear if you achieve any movement on price. I spec'd one up to get as close as I could to my yellow Cross, and ended up just short of 14k - and still with those poverty-spec steel wheels (the configurator doesn't allow you to choose alloys - surely Fiat are missing a trick there?).

With a 2k Fiat deposit contribution on the 4x4 and Cross at the moment, and 0% finance over 3 years (via the Privilege scheme - available to anyone who stumps up a few quid to join the IAM), the Waze 4x4 isn't quite as much of a steal as it might at first appear. It only looks that way because the RRP of the Waze is high. But I agree that with some packs/options thrown in, and a decent finance offer, the Waze deal could stack up very nicely indeed.

(I see that, in the small print, Fiat say that the Waze 4x4 deal can't be combined with any other offer, so presumably no Fiat deposit contribution or 0% finance? If that deal can be combined with Privilege, even I'd be all over it - and I'm a notoriously tight bastard.)
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It will be interesting to hear if you achieve any movement on price. I spec'd one up to get as close as I could to my yellow Cross, and ended up just short of 14k - and still with those poverty-spec steel wheels (the configurator doesn't allow you to choose alloys - surely Fiat are missing a trick there?).

With a 2k Fiat deposit contribution on the 4x4 and Cross at the moment, and 0% finance over 3 years (via the Privilege scheme - available to anyone who stumps up a few quid to join the IAM), the Waze 4x4 isn't quite as much of a steal as it might at first appear. It only looks that way because the RRP of the Waze is high. But I agree that with some packs/options thrown in, and a decent finance offer, the Waze deal could stack up very nicely indeed.

(I see that, in the small print, Fiat say that the Waze 4x4 deal can't be combined with any other offer, so presumably no Fiat deposit contribution or 0% finance? If that deal can be combined with Privilege, even I'd be all over it - and I'm a notoriously tight bastard.)
Hi there,

What is the IAM? i don't think I've heard of it, if you could expand, that would be great.

I"m not a fan of alloy wheels, too easy to scuff and costly to repair. I always try and spec down to steel wheels and wheel trims if I can, but it's getting harder to do that these days. Nearly everything comes with alloy wheels, unfortunately.

Yeah, I'm not expecting to get any more of a price reduction and again when I sepecced mine up in came to nearly 14,000 so I am hoping to get some options or packs thrown in. I've been buying new or nealry new Fiats retail from my my local dealer for the last 10 years and having servicing done for longer. They have looked after me well in the past and I'm keen to see if they'll do it again on the Waze.

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I"m not a fan of alloy wheels, too easy to scuff and costly to repair
Oddly enough, I find my Cross is resistant to scuffing - in two and a half years I haven't marked the wheels. I think it's because the tyres are quite fat and so the rims are sort of recessed by just enough that the tyre hit the kerb first.
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What is the IAM? i don't think I've heard of it, if you could expand, that would be great.
Institute of Advanced motorists. FIAT offers large discounts for people who are members of certain groups/employers. Two schemes - for example:

FOR CASH BUYERS
https://www.polfed.org/WestMids/medi...rch-2019-1.pdf

FOR FINANCE BUYERS
https://www.polfed.org/WestMids/medi...rch-2019-3.pdf

Your local dealer can quote you the membership requirements (e.g. FIAT Motor club).
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^ what he said ^

... although access to the two schemes (Affinity and Privilege) is not just about whether you're a cash buyer or buying on finance. The eligibility rules are different.

So, as an IAM member (or, strictly speaking, the husband of one - family members are eligible too ) I am able to benefit from Privilege, but not Affinity.

It saved me over 3k on my Cross, and I got 0% finance, too. It's a no brainer. The deals change on a quarterly basis, so it's always a gamble whether to twist or stick at any particular moment.
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Oddly enough, I find my Cross is resistant to scuffing - in two and a half years I haven't marked the wheels. I think it's because the tyres are quite fat and so the rims are sort of recessed by just enough that the tyre hit the kerb first.
I've managed to scuff two of mine
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For someone like me who isn't totally convinced by the Waze, this isn't a bad offer. https://www.glynhopkin.com/fiat/new-...iat-panda-4x4/

@gar074 would never have believed the TA 90 Waze even if have to add yellow paint, heated mirrors and 3rd rear seatbelt would undercut a new TA Cross RRP by over 4k.
Yes its pretty well identical too. It seems the waze 4x4 has a RRP of 15360 or so so its a bargain at 12250. The required extras amount to about 500 and it could do with some better wheels. I much prefer the absence of fake leather which in the Panda amounts to plasticised canvas. If we get tariffs on new cars and my delivery is delayed however I will cancel immediately as I have a set budget and will not exceed it. Its up to Fiat to get it here in a reasonable time without delay. This offer is obviously to smooth out production demand while B***** is farcing its way on. Here is hoping the car gets here in time.
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Can one of "the knowledgable ones" out there tell me of significant differences between the 4x4 90bhp and the 85bhp TA engines and performance.
Can the 85 be uprated to 90 and if so is it worth it? I would say if it is a trade off between performance and reliability I will opt for reliability every time.
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Hi Colin. Research suggests that its worth B all. 0.1 seconds off the 0-62 time. No difference in torque so not worth talking about really. I am sure its just a case of standardising on one set of components / electronics. Headline rubbish.... The 85 has as much go as is necessary for any UK road and will fly along at speed with the greatest of ease. I wonder if in reality there is any difference at all???
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Hi Colin. Research suggests that its worth B all. 0.1 seconds off the 0-62 time. No difference in torque so not worth talking about really. I am sure its just a case of standardising on one set of components / electronics. Headline rubbish.... The 85 has as much go as is necessary for any UK road and will fly along at speed with the greatest of ease. I wonder if in reality there is any difference at all???
Much of the gain in bhp is lost owing to the added weight of the 4x4 system... The Cross 4x4 has always had 5bhp more than other Pandas - except the last of the diesels, where it was 95bhp in both 'regular' and Cross 4x4
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Hi there,

What is the IAM? i don't think I've heard of it, if you could expand, that would be great.

I"m not a fan of alloy wheels, too easy to scuff and costly to repair. I always try and spec down to steel wheels and wheel trims if I can, but it's getting harder to do that these days. Nearly everything comes with alloy wheels, unfortunately.

Yeah, I'm not expecting to get any more of a price reduction and again when I sepecced mine up in came to nearly 14,000 so I am hoping to get some options or packs thrown in. I've been buying new or nealry new Fiats retail from my my local dealer for the last 10 years and having servicing done for longer. They have looked after me well in the past and I'm keen to see if they'll do it again on the Waze.

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Who is your local (near Deal ) dealer?. I bought my 4x4 from Lipscombe Aylesford they were OK.
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Who is your local (near Deal ) dealer?. I bought my 4x4 from Lipscombe Aylesford they were OK.
Hi. It's Northgate in Canterbury. Decided not to go for a Waze in the end. Decided to be sensible, unfortunately!

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