Ok thanks' for your time I shall keep persevering

I have found the photos, so will repost my earlier reply with the photos too

For post 2012 Panda -
- Remove the pull-off panels in front of each wiper spindle (pull from the right hand side of each one as that side unclips. Also note the small round drain hole at the right side of the 'recess' the covers fit over - see second photo)
- Remove the wiper arms (first remove plastic cap from nut, then unscrew nut and lift arm away)
- 3 clips at front edge (engine side - not shown on photos) plus TWO at each side (at each side, one of the clips is a 2-Part plastic ‘rivet’ where the central/inner part unscrews then pulls up to allow the outer part to come away)
- Remove the rubber weatherstrip from the leading edge of the scuttle cover (Lift up one end first then pull along to remove)


Now lift the edge of the panel nearest you upwards and pull the panel towards you and it will all come free.
- reach under the left end of the panel and detach the windscreen washer piping from a junction near the base of the driver side jet
- pass the panel out towards you, over the top of the engine. 'Bow' the panel upwards in the centre to get it past the bonnet hinges.

Beware: if you have heated windscreen the connections (4 blue plastic connectors to a piece of black ‘foil’ at base of the screen) are fragile and cannot be detached.

Reassemble in reverse order. Don't forget to reconnect the washer pipe.

I missed a photo...
When refitting the wiper arms, note the -OOO- marks on the glass that show where the ends of the blade should be positioned for correct wiping

food for thought said:

Ok thanks' for your time I shall keep persevering

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Found them... so reposted. Previously I said there was one clip at each side. The photos reminded me there are two!

2016 Fiat Panda cross scuttle removal as with the other sound advice on this page I thought I would add my experience so pulling off the wiper panels off be careful pull from right hand side tease it from underneath with dull knife and twist the right side will raise but the left side is held with a fragile tab you need to lift it over to the right.
pull up weather strip.
remove foam from both ends of scuttle they will pull towards you but also have retaining plugs so pull the foam off the plug or remove plug.
Right and Left hand side of scuttle use a solid object to push up nipple in the centre of plastic plug the plug will then loosen and is removable.
Remove centre plug by lifting if you can use a fork type plastic tool to prize it up.
The others said lift and pull the scuttle this didn't work for me so I used the plastic pry bars I purchased off the net for removing plastic panels and again teased the leading edge between the windscreen and the scuttle there is a male and female profile that retains it and lifted it inch by inch .
don't forget at this point to remove the screen washer pipe.
also at the back of the scuttle there is a drainage sump that keeps the are from flooding now this gets blocked with leaves and crapp so use something to gingerly remove the rubbish and poke what's left through with a stick to clear any obstruction.
I have some pictures will try to upload.

Thanks both

food for thought. Thanks for this - neatly adds the bit I forgot (because I didn’t take a picture of me doing it - the photos were taken last summer so I was working from memory to write the instruction). This was to remove the side foam pieces, and then yes push up the centre bit of the two part rivet (I remember now )
Interesting that you say the front edge of the panel wouldn’t lift away once all the clips off, as in your photo of the centre plug it appears to have lifted up in the same way mine did (see arrows added to your photo showing the gap). The ‘inner edge’ is loose, but the black plastic it rests on is fixed. You just need to lift the loose inner edge with a pry tool by an inch and then can put your hand under to lift and pull towards you - no ‘effort’ needed. I think lifting the front unlocked the panel from the ‘giant Velcro or ‘Sticklebrick’ fixings at the bottom of the glass (which in your last but one photo, to the left of the heated screen connector)

Your thread helped me quite a lot however the lift and pull was tight and I was unsure so I thought caution rather than valour lol and tease it off from left to right using the plastic prise tools, Thank you once again.

Thank you Mr. Herts Hillhopper,

My rear window washer pipe had popped off at a joint behind the scuttle, due to being iced up. Fixed no bother thanks to your posts.

I found that the two screw headed clips just kept rotating, but I could reach the centre spigot from underneath, so they simply pushed up and then released easily.

Brigodee said:

Thank you Mr. Herts Hillhopper,

My rear window washer pipe had popped off at a joint behind the scuttle, due to being iced up. Fixed no bother thanks to your posts.
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Why not click the 'like' icon.. bottom right of screen

I’d been thinking for a while that my wife’s Panda smelt a little musky and finally had time to look at it. Needless to say the front passenger footwell was like a paddling pool.
Thanks to this thread I was able to sort out the blockages in short order.

Brilliant job and yet again shows the value of this community

Ah this brings back memories. I think MOT 2016 or MOT 2017 I went and got a pre-MOT wash, the fanciest one in my area - a drive through where they hand washed, then a guy in a ditch under the car would clean underneath, before a machine did it all again. Think I spent £17 on the wash with every option.

Mid-way through, a big splash of water wet my feet! Then I learnt about the scuttle drain drip release clogging with dirt and leaves composted into a ground coffee puck like texture. I would give them a squeeze every so often and listen to the gunk dropping and the water too. That was on a 169 Panda. Is the same thing an issue on the new shape?

Btw, had the scuttle Panel off my Avensis a few times. Broke a few clips, there are packs on eBay - big assorted bags - of plastic clips and fittings for this, in case you snap or break anything. Handy to have! If you break anything getting it off, definitely give that a quick search. It's nearly impossible in my experience to describe said particular clips to the dealer or motor factors anyway

Of course I’ve now found all the sound insulation under the carpets are absolutely sodden. Used my carpet cleaner to vacuum up most of it, but in the end I had to lift the carpet and remove the insulation to dry them out properly. I’m still a bit concerned that the insulation under the centre console will need to be removed too. I can feel the edges and it feels wet to me, but it looks a royal pita to do.

I find I can just get a hand on the duckbills and give them a squeeze from under the bonnet to release water and wash away mud. One day I am going to get them out and trim them slightly to open up the outlet slightly. I think they are designed to reduce flow to prevent water getting everywhere including onto the starter, alternator and aircon. Do they work?? I think its debatable.

The Panda Nut said:

I find I can just get a hand on the duckbills and give them a squeeze from under the bonnet to release water and wash away mud. One day I am going to get them out and trim them slightly to open up the outlet slightly. I think they are designed to reduce flow to prevent water getting everywhere including onto the starter, alternator and aircon. Do they work?? I think its debatable.

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That method worked on the Panda 169 shape. Once I knew where to reach, I could do this and hear the gunk drop out. But a few times I accidentally lost grip and they popped off and fell loose in that empty void where the water sits... If you get a feel for it you can do this regularly and it'll do the job. But if you've never done it or have years of gunk, you might need them out fully to scoop it out.