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Hi Panda guys

Was just wondering how many of you, like me, have opted for the City Safety Pack?

When I ordered mine the dealer mentioned that I was the first to order from them and of all those trillion of YouTube vids of Pandas none show off the City Brake, unlike the UP!, Mii and CitiGo trio.

Thanks

Steve
 
I received my 4x4 about three weeks ago with City Brake Control. I've tried arriving too fast approaching cars (with care of course)at traffic lights and nothing has happened. I was expecting that it would gradually slow me down similar to careful normal driving. After watching a YouTube video I now understand that it is a last minute slam on the brakes.
I don't like the oppressive feel the CBC gives with the larger than normal black plastic area behind the mirror. I ordered the extra side airbags, split seats, leather steering wheel, 5 seat belts and spare wheel. I had a £2000 discount. Stupidly I didn't order the reversing sensors and the TomTom.
I changed from a Nissan Patrol and love my little toy.
Brian.
 
1Oll said:
I received my 4x4 about three weeks ago with City Brake Control. I've tried arriving too fast approaching cars (with care of course)at traffic lights and nothing has happened. I was expecting that it would gradually slow me down similar to careful normal driving. After watching a YouTube video I now understand that it is a last minute slam on the brakes.
I don't like the oppressive feel the CBC gives with the larger than normal black plastic area behind the mirror. I ordered the extra side airbags, split seats, leather steering wheel, 5 seat belts and spare wheel. I had a £2000 discount. Stupidly I didn't order the reversing sensors and the TomTom.
I changed from a Nissan Patrol and love my little toy.
Brian.
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The Panda's got such good all-round visibility, I never considered specifying
the reversing sensors (I have them on my Alfa Mito, which has rubbish rear
visibility, but now reckon I could have managed without them :confused: )

As for the TomTom, I know it's well integrated, with extra features, but
I'm a Garmin fan and have hand-held units (for cycling and walking) which
can be pressed into use adequately for in-car navigation :D

The City Brake Control would have been handy for me about 20 years ago
when I almost hit the back of a van- it was a useful lesson in 'traffic
awareness' and I've never since come close to repeating it :rolleyes:

However, a system to stop a vehicle rear-ending one's own would be good!



Chris
 
It's a piece of kit that I think is very useful. My partner has twice rear ended someone at a roundabout. Piriferal vision has detected the car in front as going and then 'bang' they haven't actually gone even though the exit was clear.

The other day (and thank god I had a passenger) I was also at a roundabout, first in the que exit way was clear, went to go and my passenger shouted "STOP!" I had no idea why but a pillock decided the cross in front of me as I was about to move off. I'm aware that these mistakes shouldn't be made if we're all paying absolute attention and I grant the CBC isn't meant to stop for pedestrians (although it would reduce any impact by slowing the force) but life is life and I'll freely admit to being human and making the occasional error.

This is not fool proof tech but it certainly helps. For me living in a town with all roundabout and junction driving its a no brainier.

Hopefully I'll never have to use it but it isn't always about your own driving and there's lots of other humans out there making very similar mistakes ;-)

Steve
 
City Break Control.
I read a report in either the Sunday Telegraph or Times about the new Golf with a similar system.
Interestingly is said that it reduced the Insurance by five groups!
I just transferred my insurance from my Nissan Patrol so I didn't get a new quote. The only offered £15 back if I cancelled and it runs to October, probably due to the Swinton Cash Back.
How much are 4x4 TwinAir drivers paying?
B.
 
Mine has the CBC. Though if you read the special manual that comes with it, it gives enough examples of how it can intervene when you'd probably rather it wouldn't that I was tempted initially to turn it off!

I too opted for rear parking sensors and though they really aren't strictly necessary they are quite useful.

Re the TomTom - I was surprised it is positioned where it is as it does block a certain amount of visibility which a fully integrated system would not legally be allowed to... Not sure why FIAT did not provide the mounting point on the face of the dash?
 
Decided against CBC, I am not keen on relying on electronics at the best of times as the thread on start/stop demonstrates!
Did go for rear parking sensors as they are useful when you is feeling lazy....
As for insurance: I have had quotes ranging from £168 (Tesco) to just under £300 (NFU). I will be going with NFU as they have a local office (I have a loathing of call centres) and also they will replace a stolen or written-off car with new for 2 years.
 
My insurance was approx £150 after cash back with quotemehappy.

4x4Panda, try tilting the tomtom down and toward the driver. It is a lot less obstructive to your vision.
In the 500 they sit even higher and really do get in the way. People around my neck of the woods have been stopped by police because of them.
 
I have had this on our TA 4x4 and wondered if it was even on...... Until yesterday when a large truck pushed onto a roundabout and nearly took me out. I didn't have time to gesticulate when the car slammed the brakes on full ABS judder and warning message on dash. Pretty cool!
 
There's a cheaper version of CBC that comes as standard and I use it often.

Look down by your feet, there's three pedals, the middle one (or left one if you've only two and can't really manage to steer and change gear at the same time), if pressed with your foot slows/stops the car, this will, if applied in time save you driving into anything in front.

To give you the time you have to couple this device with something that was taught when learning to drive, ie don't drive so feckin' close to the car in front.

It's also quite beneficial as it aids driver awareness and concentration, which I believe are prerequisite of drivings.

If you add these two things in with the use of the middle pedal device, you can start to magically anticipate when the car in front slows as red lights on the back of it glow brightly, but better still the gap between it and you becomes smaller (only available to those with the gift of sight), you take this as an indication that it might be a good idea to use the device.

It's worked for me for over 30 years and I think because I've managed to for so long my insurance company discount my premium even more.
 
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Goudrons said:
There's a cheaper version of CBC that comes as standard and I use it often.

Look down by your feet, there's three pedals, the middle one (or left one if you've only two and can't really manage to steer and change gear at the same time), if pressed with your foot slows/stops the car, this will, if applied in time save you driving into anything in front.

To give you the time you have to couple this device with something that was taught when learning to drive, ie don't drive so feckin' close to the car in front.

It's also quite beneficial as it aids driver awareness and concentration, which I believe are prerequisite of drivings.

If you add these two things in with the use of the middle pedal device, you can start to magically anticipate when the car in front slows as red lights on the back of it glow brightly, but better still the gap between it and you becomes smaller (only available to those with the gift of sight), you take this as an indication that it might be a good idea to use the device.

It's worked for me for over 30 years and I think because I've managed to for so long my insurance company discount my premium even more.
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Brilliant. This is also why the shield in front of you is made of glass instead of plywood.

As an aside: I've seen a Smart with reversing sensors. There's something to keep away from.
 
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Goudrons said:
There's a cheaper version of CBC that comes as standard and I use it often.

Look down by your feet, there's three pedals, the middle one (or left one if you've only two and can't really manage to steer and change gear at the same time), if pressed with your foot slows/stops the car, this will, if applied in time save you driving into anything in front.

To give you the time you have to couple this device with something that was taught when learning to drive, ie don't drive so feckin' close to the car in front.

It's also quite beneficial as it aids driver awareness and concentration, which I believe are prerequisite of drivings.

If you add these two things in with the use of the middle pedal device, you can start to magically anticipate when the car in front slows as red lights on the back of it glow brightly, but better still the gap between it and you becomes smaller (only available to those with the gift of sight), you take this as an indication that it might be a good idea to use the device.

It's worked for me for over 30 years and I think because I've managed to for so long my insurance company discount my premium even more.
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You should try living in the "crash for cash" capital of the UK then.

Every little helps IMHO ;-)>
 
portland_bill said:
Brilliant. This is also why the shield in front of you is made of glass instead of plywood.

As an aside: I've seen a Smart with reversing sensors. There's something to keep away from.
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Have you ever tried reversing a Smart Fourtwo? It's not as easy as you might think ;-)>
 
I do live in the Capital, right in the middle.

I'm not set against modern safety devices, the likes of ABS and airbags have saved many lives, though I believe they've changed driving habits, with people driving like bellends with some sort of false security.

But some, like CBC and Lane Control do seem to aid the feckless.
We're starting to suffer those that think "I don't need to concentrate as the car does it for me".
 
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